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Author: Mike
Date: Sep 13, 2008 04:40

Thank you very much, now I have all information I need.
My organization trouble is a business problem of too many mails every day. I
want one place for any possible issue in one organized world. In outlook
folfers I have all mails organized, but no additional notes (comfortable as
ON). In ON I had notes, but no mails as Outlook objects.
My strategy will be now: Any mail is sent to ON with the ON-button, then a
cut/paste of the mail goes into the same ON page (as an icon) and is then
deleted in Outlook. Now I can continue with more notes in this place (pages).
I think this is what you meant with combination of methods 1/3.
Thank you for the excellent explanations.
Best regards

"Rainald Taesler" wrote:
> Mike wrote:
>
>> sorry, my English is not the best.
>
> No problem with the language at all!
>
> Thanks for clarifying.
> You are making yourself well understood.
>
>> Until now I organized my mails in Outlook, growing and growing the
>> outlook folders.
>
> That's just normal ;-)
>
> Still: To me it seems that you are thinking of using OneNote in a way
> which would not be a preferable way of handling mail-traffic.
> You did not say which kind of mail traffic you are thinking about:
>
> a) Was it just a few *private* mails, perhaps OneNote might be of help.
>
> b) Was it "business mail", ON would not be a proper instrument at all,
> IMHO.
> Just the other day Erik Soyka (MVP) replied in a similar thread
> news:ubjRj7SEJHA.952@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
>
> || OneNote isn't intended for that type of file storage. I would
> || archive your old emails to a PST file, which is a native file
> || format in Outlook.
> || You can then easily move emails back and forth among PST
> || files and whatever other storage you're using (Exchange or IMAP
> || folder, etc.)
>
> I can only add that this only too true.
> My recommendation for organizing mail would be to just make use of
> Outlook's great mail-handling features.
> Create as many folders as is appropriate to store the mails in
> systematically laid out structures.
> Archive the older stuff from time to time.
> That's all one would need.
>
> This said:
> What one can do with mail in ON just depends on the way one is using
> Outlook and ON and the combination of the two.
> There's basically *three* different ways. Each of them has it's
> advantages and disadvantages.
>
> 1.) Insert the content of a mail in OneNote (using the ON-Icon in the
> "Ribbon" bar of a mail).
> This feature, AFAICS, is only available in Outlook 2007.
> It produces a "normal" page in ON which can be edited and used just as
> any other page in ON.
> It's my preferable way of working with mail (in case I really want to
> have in ON).
>
> 2.) Print a mail into ON (using the "SendToOneNote"-printer from
> Outlook).
> This produces an *image* inserted in ON.
> Repeated: The result is an *image*.
> It can be searched in ON (and with Windows Search [WDS]), still: it's an
> image.
>
> 3.) Copy the mail (using "Edit | Copy) and then paste the mail into ON
> (as an embedded copy).
> This stores the mail as an embedded copy inside ON and only shows an
> *icon* for the mail-message on the page in ON).
> As the copy is stored inside ON, the mail-message can be opened in ON
> (even if the original was deleted in Outlook).
>
>> Now I found Onenote and, when arriving emails, I
>> send them immediately to Onenote for a better organization having
>> all onenote advantages.
>
> I do not see (as you did not tell us), which method you are using.
> As you say "send", I just assume that you might be using method "2 .)"
> as explained above.
> If so: What you receive in ON is just an image.
> And that's just not interactive (just like any other image).
>
>> Now, within Outlook if you open a mail, you
>> can respond automatically to all cc-contacts, route the mail and so
>> on, which is very comfortable. Within Onenote it would be nice to
>> have this feature too (because I want to delete the emails from
>> outlook after sending them to onenote). But, in Onenote I cannot
>> reopen the mail to respond to the cc-contacts (imagine 15 cc to be
>> written manually again), to route the mail, to use it like a normal
>> email.
>
> As said before:
> With using the "SendToOneNote"-printer (method 2.) you just produce an
> image.
> And with an image you just can hardly do anything but viewing it.
> No interactive features at all, naturally.
>
> Would you use method (1.) - i. e. sending the content of the
> mail-message into ON with the Add-in of Outlook, you would have the
> whole content of the mail-message in ON. And then you would have an
> active link to the *sender*.
> So you could just click on the link and send a reply to the sender (no
> other features like forwarding, etc.).
>
> Would you use method (3.) and just embed a copy of the OL-mail-message
> in ON, you could just click on the icon on the ON-page and open a copy
> of the original mail-message; this would offer you all of the
> message-handling Outlook provides (even when the original MSG-file was
> deleted in Outlook; you might even save the
> file to some place on the drive).
>
>> There are tools storing an email to disk with .msg extension. If
>> you open a .msg file, it opens as a normal mail and you can do
>> exactly what I described and you can send it again with outlook.
>
> Exactly this works if you use method (3.).
> As you'd have the mail-message *embedded* in OneNote it's behaving just
> the same way as if you would have it stored somewhere on your HDD.
> It opens when clicked and all of the features of an "MSG-file are
> available.
>
>> I want to know, if this can be done from within a onenote page, if it
>> contains a stored email.
>> I do not mean a link in onenote pointing to the mail in outlook!
>
> A said, using method (3.) will provide these features (as you are just
> holding a copy of the original mail inside your ON-notebook).
>
> You will not *see* the mail-message's content, however, displayed in
> OneNote, just an Icon!!!
> To see the content of a mail-message in ON would require to do *two*
> things:
>
> a) Use method 3.) to embed a copy of the "msg"-file in ON;
> and
> b) use method 1.) or method 2.) in order to see not only the icon for
> the embedded copy but the content too.
>
> My recommendation would be to combine method 1.) and method 3.)
>
> But again:
> OneNote is an instrument for almost everything.
> I seriously doubt, however, that it might be used as an instrument for
> organizing mail-traffic (other than just a *few* private mails).
> Use the instruments for mail.
> ON just isn't that.
>
> Rainald
> If any questions, pls ask them!
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