With the upload of debian-maintainers version 1.27, the following
changes to the keyring have been made:

dm:henrich@debian.or.jp
Full name: Hideki Yamane
Added key: 455582ED38B6C870E099388C22ED21CBC4C7264B

A summary of all the changes in this upload follows.

Debian distribution maintenance software,
on behalf of,
Anibal Monsalve Salazar debian.org>

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Format: 1.7
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:49:00 +1000
Source: debian-maintainers
Binary: debian-maintainers
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.27
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
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Not really an automated mail, but we can pretend.

The following changes to the Debian keyring have been made:

ag
Full name: Aurelien Gerome
Linked key: 2FC3907C20D963EBB234D023236C60C665B4B162
(formerly belonging to dm:ag@roxor.cx)

akumar
Full name: Kumar Appaiah
Added key: CFCD193DE96D1CE927CE51AB49DEF96B0B5AB4E7

andete
Added key: 062A20ADA62FF34A0DBE6FCD2A75E4D1B59BD712

bencer
Full name: Jorge Salamero Sanz
Added key: 93AEA3727846B14E0DB38B65589A903470EB0FCE

bernat
Full name: Vincent Bernat
Linked key: 5854AF2B65B20E962161E32B285BD7A1F22A794E
(formerly belonging to dm:bernat@luffy.cx)

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Anthony Towns wrote:

May I guess that this good news is somehow connected to [1]?
If yes, thanks once more to our former DPL!

Kind regards

Andreas.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/04/msg00007.html

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 07:53:15AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:

I don't see any evidence of it:

ajt@raff:~$ ls -l /srv/keyring.debian.org/pub/keyrings/
total 28056
-rw-r--r-- 1 troup root 25393210 Apr 17 19:13 debian-keyring.gpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 troup root 949211 Apr 17 19:13 debian-keyring.pgp
-rw-r--r-- 1 troup root 4924 Apr 17 19:13 debian-role-keys.gpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 troup root 583785 Apr 17 19:13 emeritus-keyring.gpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 troup root 104871 Apr 17 19:13 emeritus-keyring.pgp
-rw-r--r-- 1 troup root 26468 Apr 17 19:13 extra-keys.pgp
-rw-r--r-- 1 troup root 1232873 Apr 17 19:13 removed-keys.gpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 troup root 366193 Apr 17 19:13 removed-keys.pgp

ajt@raff:~$ groups joerg noodles
joerg : Debian webwml nm newmaint qa debadmin planet ftpteam
noodles : Debian keyring

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 05:31:01PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:

A German would be inclined to say "Das hat ein Geschmäckle". I tend to
question what the DPL election and an Ubuntu release has to do with
creating new DDs.

The former may be interpreted as "they keyring manager doesn't want
the new DDs to vote in the DPL election", the latter as "the keyring
manager is too busy with his paid work to do his Debian duties", both
of which I'd see as a reason to fire the keyring manager.

Greetings
Marc

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On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Anthony Towns wrote:

Hmmmm, what really concerns me is that I do not even see evidence
that the fact stated in [1] is even implemented.

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 05:31:01PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:

.oO( what's the purpose of "keyring" group if files are "troup:root" ? )

SCNR

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 09:58:37AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:

Here is the evidence:

zack@master:~$ groups joerg | grep -q debadmin && echo '\o/'
\o/

( though it has nothing to do with keyring )

--
Stefano Zacchiroli -*- PhD in Computer Science ............... now what?
zack@{upsilon.cc,cs.unibo.it,debian.org} -<%%>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/
(15:56:48) Zack: e la demo dema ? /\ All one has to do is hit the
(15:57:15) Bac: no, la demo scema \/ right keys at the right time

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On 18/04/08 at 09:58 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

But you was asking yourself:

what's the purpose of "keyring" group if files are "troup:root" ?

So I fail to see how the current setup enables joerg to change
the keyring which means things are not fully implemented - in whatever
group different from root he is, right?

Kind regards

Andreas.