On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 12:48:26AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:

] Just to be clear, the two debian logos are currently under the restrictive
] copyright licences described on http://www.debian.org/logos/ (set by
] votes in 1999) and not currently suitable for inclusion in the debian
] operating system, but the project is currently in the process of changing
] this. I expect an announcement from SPI soon.

That's no longer the case; both logos are now available under the MIT
license, however a public announcement hasn't been made pending some
details.

] Personally, I'm not surprised that there was not much progress on
] our trademark during 2006-2007, with a Debian Project Leader who writes
] utter rubbish like "The DFSG [...] doesn't cover patents or trademarks"
] but maybe we can get moving again now, and make debian more fun by
] fixing this mess at long last, instead of it being thrown up over our
] shoes each time we complain about someone else using trademarks to
] obstruct free software.

Yes, clearly no progress was made, and certainly all the progress that wasn't
made was in spite of anything I might have done.

Anthony Towns azure.humbug.org.au> wrote:

What's the delay? We get knocked for this often, so it would be great
to finally have it resolved.

Are the logos truly available under the new licence if no-one has a
copy of that licence yet?

If a tree falls in the forest when no-one is near, is it noisy?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I did not write there was no progress.