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Retiring the sparc32 port         


Author: Jurij Smakov
Date: Jul 14, 2007 16:00

Hi,

First of all, I would like to apologize for falling out of the loop
for almost 4 months. My move and settling-in period took quite a
bit longer than I expected. In the meantime there was no further
progress on the decision about continued sparc32 support, so I would
like to address it as soon as possible.

The discussion which took place in April and May did not in any way
resolve the fundamental problem of sparc32: lack of people actively
interested in maintaining it (please correct me if I'm wrong)....
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Re: Retiring the sparc32 port         


Author: Steven Ringwald
Date: Jul 14, 2007 18:50

Jurij Smakov wrote:
> If there are no last-minute objections, I would like to make an
> official announcement on d-d-a that Debian is dropping support
> for sparc32 for lenny within the next couple of days.

I, for one, will be sorry to see it go, as I actively use my SS10's and
20's. Anyone know of any other Linux distros out there that support the
Sparc32 architecture, or am I going to have to look into something like
NetBSD going forward?

Steve

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Re: Retiring the sparc32 port         


Author: Austin (Ozz) Denyer
Date: Jul 14, 2007 19:00

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:57 -0700, Steven Ringwald asric.com>
wrote:
>
> Jurij Smakov wrote:
>> If there are no last-minute objections, I would like to make an
>> official announcement on d-d-a that Debian is dropping support
>> for sparc32 for lenny within the next couple of days.
>
> I, for one, will be sorry to see it go, as I actively use my SS10's and
> 20's. Anyone know of any other Linux distros out there that support the
> Sparc32 architecture, or am I going to have to look into something like
> NetBSD going forward?

I too will be sad to see it go. I love my SS5...

Regards,
Ozz.
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Re: Retiring the sparc32 port         


Author: Frans Pop
Date: Jul 15, 2007 05:20

On Sunday 15 July 2007 03:53, Austin Denyer wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:57 -0700, Steven Ringwald asric.com>
>> I, for one, will be sorry to see it go, as I actively use my SS10's
>> and 20's. Anyone know of any other Linux distros out there that
>> support the Sparc32 architecture, or am I going to have to look into
>> something like NetBSD going forward?
>
> I too will be sad to see it go. I love my SS5...

Hi Steven and Denyer,

We are *also* sad to see sparc32 go, but these kinds of messages are only
a repeat of similar reactions on earlier threads.

What we need to sparc32 alive - not only in Debian, but in Linux in
general - is not people who are sad, but people who are willing to invest
time and energy to fix the issues there are, to make sure sparc32 is
supported in the software (kernel, toolchain, whatever) and who are
committed to _keeping_ it maintained.
Being sad unfortunately does not help with that at all.
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Re: Retiring the sparc32 port         


Author: Chris Andrew
Date: Jul 15, 2007 06:20

I love it for my dual processor SS20. Is there another linux distro I can
use?

On 15/07/07, Ozz Austin Denyer ozz.is-a-geek.net> wrote:
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> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:57 -0700, Steven Ringwald asric.com>
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Re: Retiring the sparc32 port         


Author: BERTRAND Joël
Date: Jul 15, 2007 06:50

Frans Pop wrote:
> On Sunday 15 July 2007 03:53, Austin Denyer wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:57 -0700, Steven Ringwald asric.com>
>>> I, for one, will be sorry to see it go, as I actively use my SS10's
>>> and 20's. Anyone know of any other Linux distros out there that
>>> support the Sparc32 architecture, or am I going to have to look into
>>> something like NetBSD going forward?
>> I too will be sad to see it go. I love my SS5...
>
> Hi Steven and Denyer,

Hello,
> We are *also* sad to see sparc32 go, but these kinds of messages are only
> a repeat of similar reactions on earlier threads.

Of course.
> What we need to sparc32 alive - not only in Debian, but in Linux in
> general - is not people who are sad, but people who are willing to invest
> time and energy to fix the issues there are, to make sure sparc32 is
> supported in the software (kernel, toolchain, whatever) and who are
> committed to _keeping_ it maintained.
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Re: Retiring the sparc32 port         


Author: Austin (Ozz) Denyer
Date: Jul 15, 2007 10:40

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:18:00 +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
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> On Sunday 15 July 2007 03:53, Austin Denyer wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:57 -0700, Steven Ringwald asric.com...
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Re: Retiring the sparc32 port         


Author: Hamish Greig
Date: Jul 15, 2007 15:20

Austin (Ozz) Denyer wrote:
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> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:18:00 +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
>> On Sunday 15 July 2007 03:53, Austin Denyer wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:57 -0700, Steven Ringwald asric.com>
>>>> I, for one, will be sorry to see it go, as I actively use my SS10's
>>>> and 20's. Anyone know of any other Linux distros out there that
>>>> support the Sparc32 architecture, or am I going to have to look into
>>>> something like NetBSD going forward?
>>> I too will be sad to see it go. I love my SS5...
>> Hi Steven and Denyer,
>>
>> We are *also* sad to see sparc32 go, but these kinds of messages are only
>> a repeat of similar reactions on earlier threads.
>>
>> What we need to sparc32 alive - not only in Debian, but in Linux in
>> general - is not people who are sad, but people who are willing to invest ...
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Re: Retiring the sparc32 port         


Author: andrew holway
Date: Jul 15, 2007 16:20

just thinkin, I don't think a sparc32 chip has been released in more
than 12 years. Surely these cannot be energy efficient machines ;)

Andrew
moonet.co.uk

On 15/07/07, Hamish Greig bigpond.net.au> wrote:
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>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:18:00 +0200, Frans Pop
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Re: Retiring the sparc32 port         


Author: Robert Reif
Date: Jul 15, 2007 16:40

andrew holway wrote:
> just thinkin, I don't think a sparc32 chip has been released in more
> than 12 years. Surely these cannot be energy efficient machines ;)
>
> Andrew
> moonet.co.uk

Aren't the Sun Rays which are still shipping using microSparc IIep chips?

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