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Author: Mario IseliMario Iseli Date: Oct 8, 2007 07:20
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 04:05:47PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> On Monday 08 October 2007 13.10:24 Mario Iseli wrote:
> Hallo Mario,
Hi Adrian,
> As far as I know the list archives know everything about Debian Sparc32 that
> is there to know - there just is no activity. This list has only 8
> subscribers right now, including me who doesn't have any SPARC hardware at
> all.
I already had a look at the archive before posting here, it isn't really a lot
uf useful information.
> On the kernel side: The last few patches for SPARC32 that were applied to
> the kernel were from
> * David S. Miller
> * Mark Fortescue
> * Robert Reif
> * Alexander Shmelev
> * Al Viro
> (all since 2.6.23rc1)
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Author: Bernd ZeimetzBernd Zeimetz Date: Oct 8, 2007 07:30
Hi,
> I will get in contact with some of those kernel developers and ask wait for some
> good recommendations or hints. I have only my very very very old Sparcstation at
> home, but I know some sparc-addicted NetBSD people which have tons of them. I
> will ask them if they could provide me 2 or 3 of them and I will also try to use
> my vitamine B at Sun Microsystems, maybe they have still some 32bit stuff which
> they can donate.
I have a Sparcstation 4 and 10 here (the SS 10 needs new fans, though,
but I think I have them here already), probably another one at work. If
anybody is interested to do Debian work on them I'll give them away for
free, probably also pay for the shipping.
Cheers,
Bernd
--
Bernd Zeimetz
<http://bzed.de/>
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Author: Julien CristauJulien Cristau Date: Oct 8, 2007 11:00
On Mon, Oct 8, 2007 at 16:15:48 +0200, Mario Iseli wrote:
> So, who wants to help us?
>
> (I CCed debian-sparc@l.d.o, maybe there are some other people who are
> interested in rescuing the sparc32 arch)
>
I'm not sure what the point of using a different list for the 1 or 2
people interested in sparc32 is going to help you. It's not like
debian-sparc is overcrowded.
Cheers,
Julien
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Author: Chris AndrewChris Andrew Date: Oct 8, 2007 11:30
Hi, Julien.
People have mentioned sparc (32) becoming a separate port on Debian,
so that we can rally the troops and make a concerted effort. This
idea seems not to be of any interest, so I think that it is good that
this list has been created. We need to get a greater readership,
though. Not sure how.
Cheers,
Chris.
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Author: Julien CristauJulien Cristau Date: Oct 8, 2007 11:40
On Mon, Oct 8, 2007 at 19:26:49 +0100, Chris Andrew wrote:
> Hi, Julien.
>
> People have mentioned sparc (32) becoming a separate port on Debian,
> so that we can rally the troops and make a concerted effort. This
> idea seems not to be of any interest, so I think that it is good that
> this list has been created. We need to get a greater readership,
> though. Not sure how.
>
Right, and I'm saying that using a new list with no subscribers isn't
the greatest idea if you want to get a broader readership. IMHO, YMMV,
etc.
Cheers,
Julien
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Author: Peter RohrerPeter Rohrer Date: Oct 8, 2007 11:50
Hello
Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2007 16:29 schrieb Bernd Zeimetz:
>> I will get in contact with some of those kernel developers and ask
>> wait for some good recommendations or hints. I have only my very
>> very...
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Author: Chris AndrewChris Andrew Date: Oct 8, 2007 12:30
Don't suppose you have any spare RAM for a sparcstation?
Cheers,
Chris.
On 08/10/2007, Peter Rohrer wrote:> Hello
>
> Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2007 16:29 schrieb Bernd Zeimetz:
>>> I will get in contact with some of those kernel developers and ask
> ...
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Author: Chris AndrewChris Andrew Date: Oct 8, 2007 12:30
Julien,
You may be right, but it seems hat sparc (32) users are understandably
getting lost, because the interest is in sparc64. If nobody is
interested (or are unable) to work on 32-bit stuff, then maybe a new
list is what is needed. Hence the point about Debian having a
separate sparc (32) port.
I'm reluctant to say more, as the sparc developers will tell me that I
can say this as much as I want, but it won't change the fact that
nobody is able to support 32-bit.
Cheers,
Chris.
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Author: Adrian von BidderAdrian von Bidder Date: Oct 8, 2007 12:40
On Monday 08 October 2007 19.57:26 Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2007 at 16:15:48 +0200, Mario Iseli wrote:
>> So, who wants to help us?
>>
>> (I CCed debian-sparc@l.d.o, maybe there are some other people who are
>> interested in rescuing the sparc32 arch)
>
> I'm not sure what the point of using a different list for the 1 or 2
> people interested in sparc32 is going to help you. It's not like
> debian-sparc is overcrowded.
SPARC32 stuff on debian-sparc@l.d.o is off topic as soon as sparc32 is
officially dead as an official Debian port. Some Debian SPARC maintainers
may want to keep the list on-topic, i.e. on the Debian SPARC (64bit) port.
Also, this list (tries to) makes it clear that this is not generic sparc
related stuff, but 32 bit specific stuff. I was hoping that those who're
interested in the port could find a sort of focus point instead of getting
lost in other discussions.
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Author: Peter RohrerPeter Rohrer Date: Oct 8, 2007 12:40
Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2007 21:27 schrieb Chris Andrew:
> Don't suppose you have any spare RAM for a sparcstation?
>
I do, 4 Modules, 16MB each from a Sparcstation 10, untested (but should
work), Label says MH1M144CTJ-6, must be third party modules.
Greetings
Peter
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