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RFS: libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl, closes: #434772         


Author: Xavier Oswald
Date: Jul 30, 2007 16:10

Hi,

Im looking for a sponsor fo libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl.

This new version closes #434772 which is a whichlist bugreport but I think this
is more important than a whichlist.

Thanks,
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Re: RFS: libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl, closes: #434772         


Author: Damyan Ivanov
Date: Jul 30, 2007 22:10

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- -=| Xavier Oswald, 31.07.2007 02:03 |=-
> This new version closes #434772 which is a whichlist bugreport but I think this
> is more important than a whishlist.

I'd say that the explanations both in changelog and README.Debian are a
little bit "around the problem".

What is the cause for the slow connection? How does krd5-config
(/etc/krb5.conf) help? What are the "right settings"?

If it is not clear to you (it is not to me), you can always ask the bug
submitter, who seems to have a lot of experience in the area.
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Re: RFS: libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl, closes: #434772         


Author: Russ Allbery
Date: Jul 30, 2007 22:30

Damyan Ivanov modsoftsys.com> writes:
> I'd say that the explanations both in changelog and README.Debian are a
> little bit "around the problem".
> What is the cause for the slow connection? How does krd5-config
> (/etc/krb5.conf) help? What are the "right settings"?
> If it is not clear to you (it is not to me), you can always ask the bug
> submitter, who seems to have a lot of experience in the area.

In general, if you're using Kerberos software, you want to have
krb5-config installed. It used to be that Kerberos wouldn't work at all
in the absence of a krb5.conf file. Now, it can, but it means that you're
relying on DNS records for all of your Kerberos configuration and things
like the local realm of the machine are determined by algorithms that
often don't apply or produce the wrong results. Plus, relying on DNS or
on the machine's hostname to determine the local realm is not recommended
for a variety of reasons, including security, so installing krb5-config
(which prompts for your local realm and KDC information) is usually the
right thing to do.
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Re: RFS: libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl, closes: #434772         


Author: Xavier Oswald
Date: Jul 31, 2007 04:20

On 22:25 Mon 30 Jul , Russ Allbery wrote:
> Damyan Ivanov modsoftsys.com> writes:
>
>> I'd say that the explanations both in changelog and README.Debian are a
>> little bit "around the problem".

After re-reading it, I think so to.. ;)
I should not commit things so late in the night when Im tired
>> What is the cause for the slow connection? How does krd5-config
>> (/etc/krb5.conf) help? What are the "right settings"?

I have ask the bug submitter and what he mean for the right settings is:
setting the right default_realm and its corresponding kdc server. This config
file is very small and should be understandable. Moreover a template can be
found in /usr/share/kerberos-configs/krb5.conf.template
I have updated the README.Debian with the informations about setting in the
/etc/krb5.conf the right default_realm and its corresponding kdc server
>> If it is not clear to you (it is not to me), you can always ask the bug
>> submitter, who seems to have a lot of experience in the area.
>
> In general, if you're using Kerberos software, you want...
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Re: RFS: libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl, closes: #434772         


Author: Damyan Ivanov
Date: Jul 31, 2007 05:30

-=| Russ Allbery, 31.07.2007 08:25 |=-
> Damyan Ivanov modsoftsys.com> writes:
>
>> I'd say that the explanations both in changelog and README.Debian are a
>> little bit "around the problem".
>
>> What is the cause for the slow connection? How does krd5-config
>> (/etc/krb5.conf) help? What are the "right settings"?
>
>> If it is not clear to you (it is not to me), you can always ask the bug
>> submitter, who seems to have a lot of experience in the area.
>
> In general, if you're using Kerberos software, you want to have
> krb5-config installed. [...]
>
> I think Recommends might be better than Suggests, even. The only reason
> why I'm hesitant to say that, or to suggest Depends, is for cases where
> this module is pulled in by other dependencies on a system that doesn't
> actually use Kerberos and for which the krb5-config debconf questions
> would be meaningless. ...
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Re: RFS: libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl, closes: #434772         


Author: Xavier Oswald
Date: Jul 31, 2007 05:50

On 15:22 Tue 31 Jul , Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> AFAIS, libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl is recommended by
> libauthen-simple-perl, which is the only reverse-dependency I find.
> Perhaps this should be downgraded to Suggests?

I don't think so since you cannot use libauthen-simple-perl alone you have to
use it with libauthem-simple-[Net|Kerberos|...]-perl.
> I mean, it looks almost certain that by installing lib*-krb5-perl one
> intends to use Kerberos and thus krb5-config looks like a good candidate
> for Recommends. libpam-krb5 and libapache2-mod-auth-kerb *depend* on
> krb5-config.
>
> On the other hand, when installing libauthen-simple-perl, krb5 seems
> like a remote dependency. Suggests seems better here IMHO.
>
> To summarize, I propose to
> (1) make libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl Depends: (or Recommends)
> krb5-config

I have already put it as Recommends since you can use it without krb5-config.
So I think Depends: is to strong.
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Re: RFS: libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl and libauthen-simple-perl, closes: #434772         


Author: Xavier Oswald
Date: Jul 31, 2007 13:20

Hi,

Im looking for a sponsor for libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl and
libauthen-simple-perl.

I have add some Suggests and Recommends to libauthen-simple-perl that was
missing. I have put to Recommends the packages that are most used with
libauthen-simple-perl according to my popcon stats and the others that are less
used to Suggests.

I have updated the README.Debian and control file for
libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl to take care of the krb5-config package and thus
close #434772

If someone can have a look..

Thanks !!
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Re: RFS: libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl and libauthen-simple-perl, closes: #434772         


Author: Xavier Oswald
Date: Aug 3, 2007 06:20

On 22:17 Tue 31 Jul , Xavier Oswald wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Im looking for a sponsor for libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl and
> libauthen-simple-perl.
>
> I have add some Suggests and Recommends to libauthen-simple-perl that was
> missing. I have put to Recommends the packages that are most used with
> libauthen-simple-perl according to my popcon stats and the others that are less
> used to Suggests.
>
> I have updated the README.Debian and control file for
> libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl to take care of the krb5-config package and thus
> close #434772

Upload done by Damyan.
Thanks !
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