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Author: TedTed Date: Jul 6, 2007 03:17
On Jul 5, 7:59 pm, "johnny@." wrote:
> by Associated Press
> Jul 5, 2007, 22:33
> DES MOINES Iowa
>
> Several universities and colleges in Iowa are ready to add
> Spanish-language pages to their Web sites and buying Spanish radio ads
> to help recruit more Hispanic students.
>
> The number of Hispanic students enrolled in Iowa's public schools
> increased from just over 4,000 in 1985 to more than 28,000 in 2005-06 a
> nearly 600 percent increase.
>
> Des Moines Area Community College plans to air Spanish ads this summer
> on a Spanish radio station.
>
> "We would be very willing to market in any language if there are
> individuals we can attract," said Rob Denson, the college's president.
> "We're going to have a tremendous work force shortage worldwide. It's
> very important we reach out to every individual who can or wants to work." ...
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Author: FloridaFlorida Date: Jul 6, 2007 04:49
On Jul 6, 6:17 am, Ted hotmail.com> wrote:> On Jul 5, 7:59 pm, "johnny@." wrote:
>> by Associated Press
>> Jul 5, 2007, 22:33
>> DES MOINES Iowa
-snip-
>> The number of Hispanic students enrolled in Iowa's public schools
>> increased from just over 4,000 in 1985 to more than 28,000 in
2005-06
>> a nearly 600 percent increase.
-snip-
>> "We would be very willing to market in any language if there are
>> individuals we can attract," said Rob Denson, the college's president.
>> "We're going to have a tremendous work force shortage worldwide. It's
>> very important we reach out to every individual who can or wants to work."
>> http://www.diverseeducation.com/artman/publish/article_8101.shtml> Just proving that the education industry can suck butts along with the
> politicians.
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Author: BeliavskyBeliavsky Date: Jul 6, 2007 05:51
On Jul 6, 7:49 am, Florida yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, no... it proves that the president of the college can
> count, a very encouraging fact by any standard.
The article quotes some critics who make sense:
'"The effort to attract more Hispanic students is meeting opposition
from some residents who are worried about access to education and
illegal immigration.
Ron Harness, 50, of Ottumwa, said illegal immigrants don't assimilate
into society.
"You have to have a working knowledge of English," Harness said. "They
are not going to learn English. They are going to suck our school
systems dry trying to run English as a Second Language."
Some people who have moved to Iowa from Mexico also have expressed
mixed reaction to recruiting Hispanics in Spanish.
Hector Barrera, 23, came to the United States four years ago and is
taking English-language classes at a DMACC campus in Des Moines. He is
preparing to take a test to get his high school equivalency diploma or
take college-credit classes.
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Author: Citizen JimseracCitizen Jimserac Date: Jul 6, 2007 05:51
On Jul 6, 7:49 am, Florida yahoo.com> wrote:> On Jul 6, 6:17 am, Ted hotmail.com> wrote:> On Jul 5, 7:59 pm, "johnny@." wrote:>>> by Associated Press
>>> Jul 5, 2007, 22:33
>>> DES MOINES Iowa
>
> -snip-
>>> The number of Hispanic students enrolled in Iowa's public schools
>>> increased from just over 4,000 in 1985 to more than 28,000 in
> 2005-06
>>> a nearly 600 percent increase.
> -snip-
>
>>> "We would be very willing to market in any language if there are
>>> individuals we can attract," said Rob Denson, the college's president.
>>> "We're going to have a tremendous work force shortage worldwide. It's
>>> very important we reach out to every individual who can or wants to work."
>>> http://www.diverseeducation.com/artman/publish/article_8101.shtml>> Just proving that the education industry can suck butts along with the
>> politicians. ...
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Author: Bob LeChevalierBob LeChevalier Date: Jul 6, 2007 14:50
Beliavsky aol.com> wrote:>On Jul 6, 7:49 am, Florida yahoo.com> wrote:>> Well, no... it proves that the president of the college can
>> count, a very encouraging fact by any standard.
>
>The article quotes some critics who make sense:
>
>'"The effort to attract more Hispanic students is meeting opposition
>from some residents who are worried about access to education and
>illegal immigration.
But of course there is no evidence that access is affected. One can
presume that the college's desire to market to potential new enrollees
in fact implies that they have enough capacity for them.
>Ron Harness, 50, of Ottumwa, said illegal immigrants don't assimilate
>into society.
And his expertise derives from???
No immigrant really assimilates into society. Their kids and
grandkids assimilate.
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Author: Bob LeChevalierBob LeChevalier Date: Jul 6, 2007 15:12
Citizen Jimserac gmail.com> wrote:>For many years I sought some sort of expose, explanation
>or even rationalizations (there were many) to explain
>the failure of American education.
What failure?
>I finally found it, like
>everything else, on the Internet - a book written by
>a New York teacher of 30 years which devastatingly
... misrepresents history, does not separate his opinions from
verifiable facts, and promotes an extremist ideology that few people
support.
Yep - its another Gatto worshipper.
>Be prepared to be amazed at the depth of the deception
Oh I certainly am. The guy makes up history.
>and its historical roots
His hysterical spin of the roots, you mean.
>The book's description of the drop
>in reading scores from the World War ll
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Author: Kent WillsKent Wills Date: Jul 7, 2007 04:14
As I understand it, on Fri, 06 Jul 2007 05:51:43 -0700, Beliavsky
aol.com> wrote:
>On Jul 6, 7:49 am, Florida yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Well, no... it proves that the president of the college can
>> count, a very encouraging fact by any standard.
>
>The article quotes some critics who make sense:
>
>'"The effort to attract more Hispanic students is meeting opposition
>from some residents who are worried about access to education and
>illegal immigration.
If they're here illegally, they should be ignored.
>
>Ron Harness, 50, of Ottumwa, said illegal immigrants don't assimilate
>into society.
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Author: Citizen JimseracCitizen Jimserac Date: Jul 7, 2007 07:28
On Jul 6, 6:12 pm, Bob LeChevalier lojban.org> wrote:
some comments regarding the controversial
but in Citizen Jimserac's
opinion brilliant expose -
"The Underground History of American Education"
by John Taylor Gatto,
said book being viewable in its entirety,
online, here:
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/underground/toc1.htm
BOB!!!!!! Good to hear from you,
I've missed your criticisms, however stubborn
and obstinate in their refusal to see reality!!
Which of Gatto's statements bother you,
perhaps THIS one:
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Author: Bob LeChevalierBob LeChevalier Date: Jul 7, 2007 14:48
Citizen Jimserac gmail.com> wrote:>Which of Gatto's statements bother you,
>perhaps THIS one:
>
>"The shocking possibility that dumb people
>don't exist in sufficient numbers to warrant
>the millions of careers devoted to tending
>them will seem incredible to you.
>Yet that is my central proposition:
>the mass dumbness which justifies official
>schooling first had to be dreamed of;
>it isn't real."
A lot of words that says nothing comprehensible.
>Or was it THIS one:
>
>"Our official assumptions about the nature of
>modern childhood are dead wrong.
His decidedly unexpert opinion.
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Author: Citizen JimseracCitizen Jimserac Date: Jul 7, 2007 16:21
On Jul 7, 5:48 pm, Bob LeChevalier lojban.org> wrote:
> [yawn]
>
> lojbab
"Yawn" Bob?
"Yawn" to a publicly funded program being exploited for
profit by the president's brother?
"Yawn" to sending kids names and addresses
to armed forces recruiters, otheriwse withholding
federal aid money from the school system that
dares not comply?????????????????
You have confirmed EVERYTHING Gatto
is saying by this response.
STILL, you DID respond on the points and given
your honest opinion and this is good. I will not
convince you and surely Gatto will not -
let the readers decide.
Thanks
Citizen Jimserac
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