... you when I added 'Friendly' there (which is not part of my usual signature) I was considering the personal factors. This was a thin cloak for words which said otherwise. To paraphrase: "You are confused" "You apparently do not know the social contract" I do not wish to drag out the original injury. I am over it. You made an earlier attempt at apology (couched in the words of ...

...dak, ftp-masters, apt, etc. people, to check the terminology (and identify the subtle differences, e.g. component vs. area), and to write a Debian glossary, which possibly reduce confusion (which started this thread). There are interested people for such BOFH? I am. Although I can't promise that I'll attend DebConf, but I think it'd be great if this discussion was held....

...!) - using two notations, for two different field, is confusing So I think we should setup a BOFH in DebConf,...area), and to write a Debian glossary, which possibly reduce confusion (which started this thread). There are interested people for such ...does. I was proposing an explanation of the origin of confusing and inconsistent terms. Probably there are better explaination. [but ...

... direction: actually the priority is on relevant teams and not to developers, so DDs should check is few places new rules. But this means also that teams doesn't coordinate and we have different and confusing terminologies. ciao cate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org

... Robert Millan wrote: Lenny is Debian. non-free is not part of Debian. Check the Social Contract. I wonder what is it that we do wrong to spread this confusion so much that it affects even Debian developers themselves. You are a GNU (co-)maintainer -- at least you have a gnu.org account and I know you've been doing significant work (at least) on GNU ...

..." sometime is named "segment" or "area" or "component") so we have an additional definition for distribution and for Debian. There are so many overloaded terms in Debian. So I agree that it is confusing. How to address? It is simple! Ask to the relevant people. The original case was about "lenny" release/installation. So ask to RM or d-i what lenny means on these groups (teams or ...

... at all. In fact, I always thought this was self-evident. Is there really something to be worried over here? Well, I really don't know. My concern right now is that there's a widespread confusion, but I have no idea where it originates or what we can do to correct it. Giacomo pointed at some possible places, so that's what we have. One of them is dak layout. I'm not particularly ...

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 09:51:42AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: Before this thread goes much further, examine the context, please. Read the whole thing and then tell me I am confused: Hi Ben, Just to make it clear, please don't take it as if I were recriminating something to you. My understanding is that this problem is about general perception and I don't think it's your fault ...

... Eee models as well, Hi Ben Lenny is Debian. non-free is not part of Debian. Check the Social Contract. I wonder what is it that we do wrong to spread this confusion so much that it affects even Debian developers themselves. What is this to blame? Would it be the FTP archive layout? Perhaps having an unified BTS? There are some problem with terms/words: they ...

...<rmh@aybabtu.com> wrote: I wonder what is it that we do wrong to spread this confusion so much that it affects even Debian developers themselves. What is this to blame? Would... much further, examine the context, please. Read the whole thing and then tell me I am confused: Earliest Eee models fully supported in Lenny Lenny will release with the atl2 ethernet driver and the non...