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Re: OpenSSL with SMTP mail instead of GnuTLS         


Author: Phil Lord
Date: Sep 18, 2008 09:44

On Sep 14, 4:41 pm, "chrych...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone here who has made this work successfully?  Tried it using this
> hack:http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-emacs-sources/2007-05/msg00021....
> to no avail.  I get "Sending failed; SMTP protocol error" with no
> trace buffer.

Sorry it didn't work for you, although I'm not surprised. It was a bit
of a hack. For me, it works but only
with cygwin and windows, and not on ubuntu. I'm afraid I don't have
the resources or the knowledge to
fix this up better than currently.

It's a worry for me; my email existence is hanging by the thread of a
bad hack. Some day soon, our
server config will change, and I'll be left without email. I don't
understand why Gnus can read email
straightforwardly with openssl, but not send it. Nor what everyone
else using Gnus to send mail is
doing. Is there another option that I am not aware of?

Phil
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Re: OpenSSL with SMTP mail instead of GnuTLS         


Author: chrycheng
Date: Sep 18, 2008 18:28

On Sep 19, 12:44 am, Phil Lord googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 14, 4:41 pm, "chrych...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone here who has made this work successfully?  Tried it using this
>> hack:http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-emacs-sources/2007-05/msg00021....
>> to no avail.  I get "Sending failed; SMTP protocol error" with no
>> trace buffer.
>
> Sorry it didn't work for you, although I'm not surprised. It was a bit
> of a hack. For me, it works but only
> with cygwin and windows, and not on ubuntu. I'm afraid I don't have
> the resources or the knowledge to
> fix this up better than currently.
>
> It's a worry for me; my email existence is hanging by the thread of a
> bad hack. Some day soon, our
> server config will change, and I'll be left without email. I don't
> understand why Gnus can read email
> straightforwardly with openssl, but not send it. Nor what everyone
> else using Gnus to send mail is ...
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Re: OpenSSL with SMTP mail instead of GnuTLS         


Author: Phil Lord
Date: Sep 19, 2008 05:45

On Sep 19, 2:28 am, "chrych...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 19, 12:44 am, Phil Lord googlemail.com> wrote:
> Now, I am able to get the part where data is sent up to the point
> where a dot character on a line by itself is sent.  I assume this is
> something like an EOF signal to the SMTP server.  However, nothing
> happens for a while after.  Then I get the "read:errno=54" in the SMTP
> session trace buffer.
>
> Any ideas anyone?
>
> Also, I think smtpmail isn't really a part of Gnus so it has problems
> with OpenSSL where Gnus doesn't.

I think the key problem is just that smtpmail.el is old; the author
also
wrote GnuTLS -- it works best with this, but not on windows.
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Re: OpenSSL with SMTP mail instead of GnuTLS         


Author: Sivaram Neelakantan
Date: Sep 19, 2008 09:58

Phil Lord googlemail.com> writes:
> On Sep 19, 2:28 am, "chrych...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 19, 12:44 am, Phil Lord googlemail.com> wrote:
>

[...]
> Actually, you might want to try a completely different option. I've
> been following
> instructions from on msmtp -- this is a lightweight SMTP client which
> looks to the outside world
> (specifically emacs!) like sendmail.
>
> I've managed to get it working with cygwin -- will be trying Ubuntu
> next, and it should work
> on mac, although I have no ability to test these.
>
> There's documentation on EmacsWiki about it; the config is a bit
> hairy at the moment, so I'll probably write a proper wrapper library
> for it at some point; smptmail-openssl.el can then be retired for
> the hack that it is.
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Re: OpenSSL with SMTP mail instead of GnuTLS         


Author: Phil Lord
Date: Sep 19, 2008 11:48

On Sep 19, 5:58 pm, Sivaram Neelakantan gmail.com>
wrote:
> Phil Lord googlemail.com> writes:
>> On Sep 19, 2:28 am, "chrych...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 19, 12:44 am, Phil Lord googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Actually, you might want to try a completely different option. I've
>> been following
>> instructions from on msmtp -- this is a lightweight SMTP client which
>> looks to the outside world
>> (specifically emacs!) like sendmail.
>
>> I've managed to get it working with cygwin -- will be trying Ubuntu
>> next, and it should work
>> on mac, although I have no ability to test these.
>
>> There's documentation on EmacsWiki about it; the config is a bit
>> hairy at the moment, so I'll probably write a proper wrapper library ...
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Re: OpenSSL with SMTP mail instead of GnuTLS         


Author: chrycheng
Date: Sep 22, 2008 18:55

On Sep 19, 8:45 pm, Phil Lord googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 19, 2:28 am, "chrych...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 19, 12:44 am, Phil Lord googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Now, I am able to get the part where data is sent up to the point
>> where a dot character on a line by itself is sent.  I assume this is
>> something like an EOF signal to the SMTP server.  However, nothing
>> happens for a while after.  Then I get the "read:errno=54" in the SMTP
>> session trace buffer.
>
>> Any ideas anyone?

It looks like it's a problem with my SMTP server. I recreated the
session in the command line and was able to observe the same
behavior. I'll take this up with support instead.
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