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> "Kurt Knoll" yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>>I know a guy who was in Eisenhowers Camp and he was telling me about some
>>25 years ago. I did not believe him because I did not know enough about
>>it.
>>In the community I live I he was a man with a straight forward reputation.
>>Watch them now calling me and him liars. But then again discriminating
>>demonizing and harassing other is the Holocaust industries way of live. I
>>did buy James Bacque Book "Other loses and it is a real eye opener for
>>everyone that is since and wants to compare both sides of a story. The
>>ISBN
>>Number for the book is 978-1-55168-191-7. For them anyone that critics or
>>asking question about the Holocaust must be a Nazi. For me this guys are
>>nothing others than a matter of simplicity.
>> Kurt Knoll

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>> "20April" <20April@xmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:0vej24hkfl414ncdopb53duepj7k5isbtv@4ax.com...

>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:31:34 -0700, in soc.culture.jewish J Young
>>> aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, the horrors of WWII continued well after May 8, 1945.
>>>
>>> http://www.seanbryson.com/articles/eisenhower.html
>>>
>>>
>>> This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
>>> Bacque!
>>>
>>> It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
>>> tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
>>> victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.
>>>
>>> Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
>>> of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!
>>>
>>> Now that more and more German survivors of the post-war genocide by
>>> the US and allies are no longer afraid to testify, perhaps they too
>>> will start demanding reparations for their torture, as did the filthy
>>> ZHIDS for the holohoax?
>>>
>>> Rumour is that ZYD photographers used the pictures of dead and dying
>>> Germans
>>> in the Eisenhower death camps, as footage for their claims regarding ZYD
>>> concentration camps, for reparations!!
>>>
>>>

>>>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:44:49 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
>>>>veritas.net> wrote:

>>>>>What an idiot.
>>>>>The poster stated that he was told about the incident AFTER the war,
>>>>>not that it happened after the war.

>>>
>>>

>>>>>On 14 Dec 2004 01:33:31 GMT, COL. RSJ alltel.net>
>>>>>wrote:

>>>>>>On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:59:16 GMT, "Kurt Knoll" monarch.net>
>>>>>>wrote:

>>>

>>>>>>>I knew an older German living her that was in Ike' camp about 35
>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>ago he told me the stories how he watched as they collected the death
>>>>>>>every morning. He said also only the strongest once did get extra
>>>>>>>food
>>>>>>>rationing to carry away the death. At one time the did stack up the
>>>>>>>death into a pile and a film grew form from America took pictures of
>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>He also said he has seen this film clip here in Canada latter on
>>>>>>>where
>>>>>>>it was portrayed as a sceene from the concentration camps.

>>>

>>>>>>So then, this all happened back in 1969. I could have sworn that WW2
>>>>>>was long over by then.

>>>

>>>>>>>Kurt Knoll
>>>>>>>Kitimat B.C. Canada

>>>

>>>>>>>"Ernst Zundholtz" veritas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:1102955538.674ea702dd61a9f1ccb0b3a7dde7eba0@teranews...

>>>>>>>> On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch" yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>> <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> Schorsch yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>>>>>>>>>>>Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Was there one you wished to make?

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>>>>>> the following article...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>>>>>> Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>>>>>> and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>>>>>> unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>>>>>> Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>>>>>> diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>>>>>>> his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>>>>>> Here is the latest.......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>>>>>> Newsgroups:
>>>>>>>> alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>>>>>> Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>>>>>> Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By Martin Brech
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>>>>>> starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>>>>>> victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>>>>>> Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>>>>>> book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>>>>>> virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>>>>>> told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed
>>>>>>>> upon
>>>>>>>> a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>>>>>> publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>>>>>> January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>>>>>> camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>>>>>> POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were
>>>>>>>> dying
>>>>>>>> at rates up to 30%% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>>>>>> food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>>>>>> docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of
>>>>>>>> Dachau
>>>>>>>> and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a
>>>>>>>> beast,'
>>>>>>>> Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British
>>>>>>>> felt,
>>>>>>>> who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>>>>>> Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>>>>>> Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the
>>>>>>>> cover-up
>>>>>>>> of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several
>>>>>>>> newspapers
>>>>>>>> which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>>>>>> finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of
>>>>>>>> evil",
>>>>>>>> cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>>>>>> put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>>>>>> redemption.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre,
>>>>>>>> France,
>>>>>>>> we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> be sent to a hospital in Belgium.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>>>>>> Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>>>>>> placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because
>>>>>>>> non-combat
>>>>>>>> units were generally not respected. My separation qualification
>>>>>>>> record
>>>>>>>> states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>>>>>> which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>>>>>> During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> outfits also.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a
>>>>>>>> POW
>>>>>>>> camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high
>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>> German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>>>>>> forbidden.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to
>>>>>>>> ferret
>>>>>>>> out the S.S. (I found none.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>>>>>> field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>>>>>> enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>>>>>> tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats.
>>>>>>>> Inadequate
>>>>>>>> numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the
>>>>>>>> men
>>>>>>>> lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>>>>>> spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes
>>>>>>>> throwing
>>>>>>>> it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was
>>>>>>>> evident.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit
>>>>>>>> trenches,
>>>>>>>> they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>>>>>> provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>>>>>> there was nothing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> it momentarily.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>>>>>> humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but
>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>> nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>>>>>> hauled away to mass graves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>>>>>> was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>>>>>> explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No
>>>>>>>> officer
>>>>>>>> would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>>>>>> felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>>>>>> kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He
>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>> repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>>>>>> prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But
>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>> said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would
>>>>>>>> sneak
>>>>>>>> me some.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>>>>>> caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense",
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>>>>>> bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a
>>>>>>>> captain
>>>>>>>> on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German
>>>>>>>> civilian
>>>>>>>> women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>>>>>> "Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>>>>>> women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> had been hit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>>>>>> cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>>>>>> the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another
>>>>>>>> expression
>>>>>>>> of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>>>>>> Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>>>>>> cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>>>>>> oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>>>>>> civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>>>>>> courageous enemy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen,
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>>>>>> many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>>>>>> still hear in our own country today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>>>>>> listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>>>>>> desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>>>>>> daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they
>>>>>>>> took
>>>>>>>> the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I.
>>>>>>>> "Yankee
>>>>>>>> traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in
>>>>>>>> exchange
>>>>>>>> for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>>>>>> threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>>>>>> indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>>>>>> when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>>>>>> Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this
>>>>>>>> enclosure,
>>>>>>>> not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>>>>>> flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>>>>>> whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I
>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>> became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the
>>>>>>>> graveyard.
>>>>>>>> We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>>>>>> from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>>>>>> lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>>>>>> never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>>>>>> Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>>>>>> position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>>>>>> regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>>>>>> reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>>>>>> picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed,
>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>> even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>>>>>> graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>>>>>> against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>>>>>> would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>>>>>> beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>>>>>> have never forgotten her face.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>>>>>> admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> touch of spring.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>>>>>> extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a
>>>>>>>> light
>>>>>>>> no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>>>>>> understanding.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>>>>>> prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>>>>>> could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the
>>>>>>>> war.
>>>>>>>> We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>>>>>> witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, on this day we were happy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>>>>>> tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed.
>>>>>>>> Intuitively
>>>>>>>> I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice',
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>>>>>> high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of
>>>>>>>> gratitude,
>>>>>>>> they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>>>>>> explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>>>>>> Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my
>>>>>>>> tight
>>>>>>>> "Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I
>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>> found an opportunity to eat it outside.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>>>>>> sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded
>>>>>>>> me,
>>>>>>>> gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>>>>>> Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has
>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>>>>>> Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>>>>>> until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even
>>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>> the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption
>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>> open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>>>>>> understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught
>>>>>>>> me:
>>>>>>>> not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>>>>>> within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>>>>>> was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>>>>>> expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>>>>>> mercy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater
>>>>>>>> horror.
>>>>>>>> Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by
>>>>>>>> French
>>>>>>>> soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>>>>>> truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I
>>>>>>>> was.
>>>>>>>> The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>>>>>> Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed
>>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>> to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many,
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged
>>>>>>>> suffering.
>>>>>>>> Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> our slow 'killing fields'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked
>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>> we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers",
>>>>>>>> selected
>>>>>>>> as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>>>>>> them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>>>>>> must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I
>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>>>>>> they deserved our treatment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly
>>>>>>>> unfortunate
>>>>>>>> arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn
>>>>>>>> raid
>>>>>>>> we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>>>>>> being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy
>>>>>>>> Nazi
>>>>>>>> medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>>>>>> identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>>>>>> more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him
>>>>>>>> "off
>>>>>>>> her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>>>>>> punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>>>>>> released him to continue his "dirty work".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>>>>>> sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>>>>>> looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>>>>>> away.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>>>>>> their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>>>>>> (foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on
>>>>>>>> trucks
>>>>>>>> and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> expression of helplessness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>>>>>> everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>>>>>> helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>>>>>> doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager
>>>>>>>> hidden
>>>>>>>> stores and wait until the next harvest.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available",
>>>>>>>> but,
>>>>>>>> despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen
>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>> old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just
>>>>>>>> friends"
>>>>>>>> with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>>>>>> was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German
>>>>>>>> civilians
>>>>>>>> also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>>>>>> 1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>>>>>> racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>>>>>> complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>>>>>> their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>>>>>> war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>>>>>> for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>>>>>> learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>>>>> we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>>>>>> unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>>>>>> blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>>>>>> atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>>>>>> speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>>>>>> prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak
>>>>>>>> out,
>>>>>>>> influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of
>>>>>>>> outrages
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of
>>>>>>>> rotting
>>>>>>>> human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and
>>>>>>>> towns
>>>>>>>> I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s
>>>>>>>> murder
>>>>>>>> of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>>>>>> magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s
>>>>>>>> sympathetic
>>>>>>>> to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a
>>>>>>>> policy
>>>>>>>> that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>>>>>> directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the
>>>>>>>> rank-and-file
>>>>>>>> G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>>>>>> would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble.
>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>> all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>>>>>> Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>>>>>> Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the
>>>>>>>> risk.
>>>>>>>> Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>>>>>> suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>>>>>> witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>>>>>> fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>>>>>> self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Martin Brech
>>>>>>>> (Adjunct Professor,
>>>>>>>> Philosophy & Religion,
>>>>>>>> Mercy College;
>>>>>>>> Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>>>>>> Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.:
>>>>>>>> 914-628-6301
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?

>>>
>>>
>>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>> then visit www.freedomsite.org
>>>
>>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>>>
>>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>> is a revolutionary act."
>>> (George Orwell)
>>>
>>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>>>
>>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>>
>>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>>>
>>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>> and impossible to ignore."
>>> --John Bryant
>>>
>>>
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>>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>> office: VISIT at:
>>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>>
>>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>> should give an indication as to the why.
>>>
>>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>>
>>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>
>>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>>> Michael's
>>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and
>>> is
>>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a
>>> grosvenor!!
>>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>>
>>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late
>>> nights.
>>>
>>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>> work:(780)492-0473
>>>
>>>
>>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>> JEW-WATCH:
>>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>>>
>>> Or, other useful websites include:
>>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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>>>
>>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>>>
>>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>>>
>>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>>>
>>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>>> for many years around the world.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:56:15 +1000, "Ben Cramer"
>>> <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>"kilgore" viagra.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:xKE9g.4818$Sh3.2770@trnddc05...

>>>>> George wrote:

>>>>>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:e4422j$ij6$1@otis.netspace.net.au...

>>>>>>> http://www.cyberussr.com/hcunn/for/us-germany-pow.html

>>>

>>>>>> They got over it, Ben. Digging up the past as you do only makes you
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> bitter man. But then, I doubt if there is a cure for you in that
>>>>>> respect.

>>>

>>>>>> George

>>>>> I lost a daughter in 95. I will never get over it. Im sure the close
>>>>> relatives of these people as well as the thousands of German children
>>>>> who
>>>>> were starved to death in Denmark will be remembered for quite some
>>>>> time.
>>>>> The present political climate in Germany is run by people who answer
>>>>> to
>>>>> Washington and Israel.When the Jews say JUMP, the Krauts say Wie hoch?

>>>

>>>>Sad, but very true.

>>>

>>>>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>>>>> First, it is ridiculed,
>>>>> second it is violently opposed, &
>>>>> third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>>>>
>>>>> - Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860

>>>
>>>

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