"Kurt Knoll"
yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:VejWj.136915$Cj7.70469@pd7urf2no...>I know a guy who was in Eisenhowers Camp and he was telling me about some
>25 years ago. I did not believe him because I did not know enough about it.
>In the community I live I he was a man with a straight forward reputation.
>Watch them now calling me and him liars. But then again discriminating
>demonizing and harassing other is the Holocaust industries way of live. I
>did buy James Bacque Book "Other loses and it is a real eye opener for
>everyone that is since and wants to compare both sides of a story. The ISBN
>Number for the book is 978-1-55168-191-7. For them anyone that critics or
>asking question about the Holocaust must be a Nazi. For me this guys are
>nothing others than a matter of simplicity.
> Kurt Knoll
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KURT KNOLL IS A LYING MACHINE
>
> "20April" <20April@
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> news:0vej24hkfl414ncdopb53duepj7k5isbtv@
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>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:31:34 -0700, in soc.culture.jewish J Young
>>
aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, the horrors of WWII continued well after May 8, 1945.
>>
>> http://www.seanbryson.com/articles/eisenhower.html
>>
>>
>> This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
>> Bacque!
>>
>> It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
>> tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
>> victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.
>>
>> Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
>> of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!
>>
>> Now that more and more German survivors of the post-war genocide by
>> the US and allies are no longer afraid to testify, perhaps they too
>> will start demanding reparations for their torture, as did the filthy
>> ZHIDS for the holohoax?
>>
>> Rumour is that ZYD photographers used the pictures of dead and dying
>> Germans
>> in the Eisenhower death camps, as footage for their claims regarding ZYD
>> concentration camps, for reparations!!
>>
>>>>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:44:49 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
>>>
veritas.net> wrote:>>>>What an idiot.
>>>>The poster stated that he was told about the incident AFTER the war,
>>>>not that it happened after the war.
>>
>>
>>>>On 14 Dec 2004 01:33:31 GMT, COL. RSJ
alltel.net>
>>>>wrote:>>>>>On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:59:16 GMT, "Kurt Knoll"
monarch.net>
>>>>>wrote:>>
>>>>>>I knew an older German living her that was in Ike' camp about 35 years
>>>>>>ago he told me the stories how he watched as they collected the death
>>>>>>every morning. He said also only the strongest once did get extra food
>>>>>>rationing to carry away the death. At one time the did stack up the
>>>>>>death into a pile and a film grew form from America took pictures of
>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>He also said he has seen this film clip here in Canada latter on where
>>>>>>it was portrayed as a sceene from the concentration camps.
>>
>>>>>So then, this all happened back in 1969. I could have sworn that WW2
>>>>>was long over by then.
>>
>>>>>>Kurt Knoll
>>>>>>Kitimat B.C. Canada
>>
>>>>>>"Ernst Zundholtz"
veritas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:1102955538.674ea702dd61a9f1ccb0b3a7dde7eba0@teranews...>>>>>>> On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"
yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>>>>>>>>>>Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Was there some point you wished to make?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Was there one you wished to make?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>>>>> the following article...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>>>>> Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>>>>> and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>>>>> unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>>>>> Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>>>>> diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>>>>>> his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>>>>> Here is the latest.......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: cmsahe@
excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>>>>> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>>>>> Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>>>>> Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By Martin Brech
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>>>>> starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>>>>> victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>>>>> Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>>>>> book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>>>>> virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>>>>> told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed
>>>>>>> upon
>>>>>>> a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>>>>> publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>>>>> January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>>>>> camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>>>>> POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were
>>>>>>> dying
>>>>>>> at rates up to 30%% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>>>>> food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>>>>> docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of
>>>>>>> Dachau
>>>>>>> and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a
>>>>>>> beast,'
>>>>>>> Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British
>>>>>>> felt,
>>>>>>> who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>>>>> Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>>>>> Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the
>>>>>>> cover-up
>>>>>>> of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several
>>>>>>> newspapers
>>>>>>> which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>>>>> finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of
>>>>>>> evil",
>>>>>>> cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>>>>> put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>>>>> redemption.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre,
>>>>>>> France,
>>>>>>> we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>>>>> time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>>>>> be sent to a hospital in Belgium.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>>>>> Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>>>>> placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>>>>> then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because
>>>>>>> non-combat
>>>>>>> units were generally not respected. My separation qualification
>>>>>>> record
>>>>>>> states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>>>>> which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>>>>> During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> outfits also.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a
>>>>>>> POW
>>>>>>> camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>>>>> German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>>>>> forbidden.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>>>>> out the S.S. (I found none.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>>>>> field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>>>>> enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>>>>> tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats.
>>>>>>> Inadequate
>>>>>>> numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>>>>> lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>>>>> spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes
>>>>>>> throwing
>>>>>>> it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>>>>> hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was
>>>>>>> evident.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit
>>>>>>> trenches,
>>>>>>> they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>>>>> provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>>>>> there was nothing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>>>>> dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> it momentarily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>>>>> humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>>>>> nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>>>>> hauled away to mass graves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>>>>> was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>>>>> explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>>>>> would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>>>>> felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>>>>> kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>>>>> prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>>>>> said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would
>>>>>>> sneak
>>>>>>> me some.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>>>>> caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense",
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>>>>> bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>>>>> on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German
>>>>>>> civilian
>>>>>>> women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>>>>> "Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>>>>> women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>>>>> had been hit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>>>>> cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>>>>> the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another
>>>>>>> expression
>>>>>>> of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>>>>> Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>>>>> cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>>>>> oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>>>>> prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>>>>> civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>>>>> courageous enemy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen,
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>>>>> many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>>>>> still hear in our own country today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>>>>> listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>>>>> desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>>>>> daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>>>>> the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I.
>>>>>>> "Yankee
>>>>>>> traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in
>>>>>>> exchange
>>>>>>> for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>>>>> cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>>>>> threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>>>>> indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>>>>> when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>>>>> Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this
>>>>>>> enclosure,
>>>>>>> not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>>>>> flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>>>>> whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I
>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>> became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the
>>>>>>> graveyard.
>>>>>>> We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>>>>> from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>>>>> lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>>>>> never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>>>>> Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>>>>> position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>>>>> regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>>>>> reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>>>>> picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>>>>> even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>>>>> graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>>>>> against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>>>>> would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>>>>> beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>>>>> have never forgotten her face.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>>>>> saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>>>>> admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>>>>> touch of spring.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>>>>> extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a
>>>>>>> light
>>>>>>> no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>>>>> understanding.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>>>>> guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>>>>> prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>>>>> could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the
>>>>>>> war.
>>>>>>> We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>>>>> part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>>>>> witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, on this day we were happy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>>>>> tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed.
>>>>>>> Intuitively
>>>>>>> I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice',
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>>>>> high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of
>>>>>>> gratitude,
>>>>>>> they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>>>>> explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>>>>> Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my
>>>>>>> tight
>>>>>>> "Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>>>>> found an opportunity to eat it outside.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>>>>> sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>>>>> gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>>>>> Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>>>>> Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>>>>> until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even
>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>> the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>>>>> open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>>>>> understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught
>>>>>>> me:
>>>>>>> not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>>>>> within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>>>>> was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>>>>> expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>>>>> mercy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater
>>>>>>> horror.
>>>>>>> Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by
>>>>>>> French
>>>>>>> soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>>>>> truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>>>>> behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>>>>> remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>>>>> The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>>>>> Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed
>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>> to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many,
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>>>>> Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>>>>> our slow 'killing fields'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked
>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>> we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers",
>>>>>>> selected
>>>>>>> as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>>>>> them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>>>>> must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>>>>> they deserved our treatment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly
>>>>>>> unfortunate
>>>>>>> arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn
>>>>>>> raid
>>>>>>> we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>>>>> being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>>>>> medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>>>>> identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>>>>> more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him
>>>>>>> "off
>>>>>>> her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>>>>> punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>>>>> released him to continue his "dirty work".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>>>>> sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>>>>> looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>>>>> away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>>>>> their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>>>>> (foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on
>>>>>>> trucks
>>>>>>> and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>>>>> expression of helplessness.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>>>>> everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>>>>> helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>>>>> doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager
>>>>>>> hidden
>>>>>>> stores and wait until the next harvest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available",
>>>>>>> but,
>>>>>>> despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>>>>> additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen
>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>> old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>>>>> with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>>>>> was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>>>>> also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>>>>> 1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>>>>> they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>>>>> racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>>>>> complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>>>>> their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>>>>> been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>>>>> high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>>>>> ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>>>>> war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>>>>> for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>>>>> learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right.
>>>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>>>> we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>>>>> unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>>>>> blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>>>>> atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>>>>> speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>>>>> prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak
>>>>>>> out,
>>>>>>> influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of
>>>>>>> rotting
>>>>>>> human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and
>>>>>>> towns
>>>>>>> I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s
>>>>>>> murder
>>>>>>> of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>>>>> magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>>>>> to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a
>>>>>>> policy
>>>>>>> that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>>>>> directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>>>>> G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>>>>> would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>>>>> all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>>>>> would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>>>>> Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>>>>> Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>>>>> received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the
>>>>>>> risk.
>>>>>>> Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>>>>> suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>>>>> witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>>>>> fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>>>>> self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martin Brech
>>>>>>> (Adjunct Professor,
>>>>>>> Philosophy & Religion,
>>>>>>> Mercy College;
>>>>>>> Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>>>>> Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?
>>
>>
>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit
www.freedomsite.org
>>
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>>
>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)
>>
>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>>
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>
>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>>
>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant
>>
>>
>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576
>>
>> together with
>>
>> Boris Dynin
sonic.net> = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henrymindspring.com> who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>
>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>>
>>
>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>
>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.
>>
>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>
>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>
>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>
>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late
>> nights.
>>
>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473
>>
>>
>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>>
>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>>
>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>>
>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>>
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>>
>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:56:15 +1000, "Ben Cramer"
>> <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote:>>>"kilgore"
viagra.net> wrote in message
>>>news:xKE9g.4818$Sh3.2770@trnddc05...>>>> George wrote:
>>
>>>>> They got over it, Ben. Digging up the past as you do only makes you a
>>>>> bitter man. But then, I doubt if there is a cure for you in that
>>>>> respect.
>>
>>>>> George
>>>> I lost a daughter in 95. I will never get over it. Im sure the close
>>>> relatives of these people as well as the thousands of German children
>>>> who
>>>> were starved to death in Denmark will be remembered for quite some
>>>> time.
>>>> The present political climate in Germany is run by people who answer to
>>>> Washington and Israel.When the Jews say JUMP, the Krauts say Wie hoch?
>>
>>>Sad, but very true.
>>
>>>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>>>> First, it is ridiculed,
>>>> second it is violently opposed, &
>>>> third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>>>
>>>> - Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860
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