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Re: Need help w/BootX icon         


Author: Jolly Roger
Date: May 10, 2008 11:08

In article <100520081145257003%%its@ll.crap>, Bleuler
wrote:
> First I guess I need to know where to post this problem. Re 17" G4
> Powerbook running 10.4.11. There is a "BootX" icon on the desktop, no
> idea how or when it got there. I can't unlock it and can't trash it -
> would like to be rid of it.

This is an appropriate place to ask this question, IMO.

The BootX file normally lives in /System/Library/CoreServices/. It's
possible you installed and ran some software that allows you to change
the Apple logo you see during boot to something else. If so, this
software may have made a copy of the BootX file and placed it on your
desktop as a backup. Or, perhaps you are running as administrator (bad
idea) and you moved the BootX file out of /System/Library/CoreServices/
to your desktop by accident.

If I were you, I'd verify that you have a BootX file in
/System/Library/CoreServices/.
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Re: Need help w/BootX icon         


Author: Bleuler
Date: May 11, 2008 07:09

Thanks for this. There is another BootX in the Core Services forlder in
System. I'm not sure what you mean by "running as administrator" or why
that would be bad idea. Who else could be administrator? I'm the only
one who uses this computer.
I'm also not sure what to do with terminal. I asked for a new command -
md5, but not sure what's supposed to happen from there. (Never used
Terminal before.)
Thanks for your help.
Gary
In article individual.net>, Jolly
Roger pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <100520081145257003%%its@ll.crap>, Bleuler
> wrote:
>
>> First I guess I need to know where to post this problem. Re 17" G4
>> Powerbook running 10.4.11. There is a "BootX"...
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Re: Need help w/BootX icon         


Author: Mike Rosenberg
Date: May 11, 2008 07:12

Bleuler wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean by "running as administrator" or why
> that would be bad idea. Who else could be administrator? I'm the only
> one who uses this computer.

That's part of an ongoing, um, discussion we've had for a while. He's
climbed on a soapbox and can't find his way down.

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Re: Need help w/BootX icon         


Author: Bleuler
Date: May 11, 2008 07:38

Well,that's fine. I appreciate healthy dialogue, even when at times
ahhh, impassioned so to speak. Maybe someone could give me a thumbnail
version of the rationale for why it's a bad idea and then some clue as
to who is or can be admin on a private single use computer.
Gary
In article <1igrtnb.1w5yt2knsjtl3N%%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
Mike Rosenberg TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:
> Bleuler wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by "running as administrator" or why
>> that would be bad idea. Who else could be administrator? I'm the only
>> one who uses this computer.
>
> That's part of an ongoing, um, discussion we've had for a while. He's
> climbed on a soapbox and can't find his way down.
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Re: Need help w/BootX icon         


Author: Mike Rosenberg
Date: May 11, 2008 07:50

Bleuler wrote:
> Well,that's fine. I appreciate healthy dialogue, even when at times
> ahhh, impassioned so to speak. Maybe someone could give me a thumbnail
> version of the rationale for why it's a bad idea and then some clue as
> to who is or can be admin on a private single use computer.
> Gary

As you may well know, if someone buys a new Mac, turns it on, and
follows the onscreen prompts, he ends up with a single administrative
account. Thus, as far as Apple is concerned, this is a perfectly
reasonable way to run your computer, and nowhere in the manual does it
say anything contrary to this.

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Re: Need help w/BootX icon         


Author: Bleuler
Date: May 11, 2008 09:36

Thanks again. What (hypothetical) Stuff are we talking about? I mean
even accepting that it's possible, yea perhaps even desirable, to run
one's puter under a different account, I'm still unclear as to the
dangers posed by running as single account/owner/admin.
Gary

In article <110520080917205025%%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave
Balderstone wrote:
> In article <1igrv8i.1quao8f1ja10hhN%%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
> Mike Rosenberg TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:
>
>> Bleuler wrote:
>>
>>> Well,that's fine. I appreciate...
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Re: Need help w/BootX icon         


Author: Jolly Roger
Date: May 11, 2008 10:33

In article <110520081009406204%%its@ll.crap>, Bleuler
wrote:
> Thanks for this. There is another BootX in the Core Services forlder in
> System.
> I'm also not sure what to do with terminal. I asked for a new command -
> md5, but not sure what's supposed to happen from there. (Never used
> Terminal before.)

You should compare the two to see if they are identical. The 'md5'
command calculates a checksum of the specified file. If both files have
the same checksum, they are identical. If they have different checksums,
they are not identical. Enter these command in a terminal window:

md5 ~/Desktop/BootX

md5 /System/Library/CoreServices/BootX

Examine the checksum number reported for each one.

If the numbers are the same, these files are identical and you can
safely delete the one on your desktop.

If the numbers are different, that means one of the files has been
modified. So you'll probably want to hang onto both of them in case one
of them causes problems during boot.
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Re: Running as Administrator (was Re: Need help w/BootX icon)         


Author: Jolly Roger
Date: May 11, 2008 10:34

In article <110520081009406204%%its@ll.crap>, Bleuler
wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean by "running as administrator" or why
> that would be bad idea. Who else could be administrator? I'm the only
> one who uses this computer.

The initial user account Mac OS X creates during installation is an
administrator account. But running with higher privileges than needed is
never a good idea. When you are logged in as administrator...
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Re: Need help w/BootX icon         


Author: Jolly Roger
Date: May 11, 2008 10:34

In article <1igrtnb.1w5yt2knsjtl3N%%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
> Bleuler wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by "running as administrator" or why
>> that would be bad idea. Who else could be administrator? I'm the only
>> one who uses this computer.
>
> That's part of an ongoing, um, discussion we've had for a while. He's
> climbed on a soapbox and can't find his way down.

Be nice. : )

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Re: Need help w/BootX icon         


Author: Jolly Roger
Date: May 11, 2008 10:39

In article <1igrv8i.1quao8f1ja10hhN%%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
> Bleuler wrote:
>
>> Well,that's fine. I appreciate healthy dialogue, even when at times
>> ahhh, impassioned so to speak. Maybe someone could give me a thumbnail
>> version of the rationale for why it's a bad idea and then some clue as
>> to who is or can be admin on a private single use computer.
>> Gary
>
> As you may well know, if someone buys a new Mac, turns it on, and
> follows the onscreen prompts, he ends up with a single administrative
> account. Thus, as far as Apple is concerned, this is a perfectly
> reasonable way to run your computer, and nowhere in the manual does it
> say anything contrary to this.

While nothing about this is mentioned in the manual that comes with your
Mac, Apple does recommend not running as administrator in the Mac OS X
security guidelines published on their web site:

<http://www.apple.com/support/security/guides/>
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