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Re: [ANN] MacSOUP 2.8.2 available         


Author: Doc O'Leary
Date: Nov 7, 2007 08:15

In article <1i76o5h.1wythqz1weo2p2N%%burt@mindstorm-inc.com>,
burt@mindstorm-inc.com (Burt Johnson) wrote:
> Thanks for the quick work! I have no idea why more people don't use
> MacSoup. I have been a loving user of it since 1.0. :-)

I think you've answered your own question. MacSOUP needs to discard
it's Classic "1.0" base and actually work on a Mac OS X version.
MT-NewsWatcher has the same problem, but at least it's free. Another
problem with MacSOUP is that setup is off-putting. When the web site
for it says "e-mail capabilities are somewhat rudimentary", it makes
*zero* sense to have the first thing prompted for be email settings. It
then apparently will prompt to set "personalities", another feature that
is unused by 90%% of the people who read Usenet and aren't asshats, so
I've already quit the app by that point. It takes more than having Mac
in the name to make software user friendly.

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Re: [ANN] MacSOUP 2.8.2 available         


Author: D. Kirkpatrick
Date: Nov 7, 2007 12:02

In article
sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Doc O'Leary 4q2007.subsume.com> wrote:
> asshats

Is there a Wiki for that word?

:-)))
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Re: [ANN] MacSOUP 2.8.2 available         


Author: Burt Johnson
Date: Nov 7, 2007 18:39

Doc O'Leary 4q2007.subsume.com> wrote:
> When the web site
> for it says "e-mail capabilities are somewhat rudimentary", it makes
> *zero* sense to have the first thing prompted for be email settings.

I wish it would just drop the email part too. So I just don't use it.

The newsreader portion is the best I have tried, and I have pretty much
tried them all...

--
- Burt Johnson
MindStorm, Inc.
http://www.mindstorm-inc.com/software.html
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Re: [ANN] MacSOUP 2.8.2 available         


Author: Jamie Kahn Genet
Date: Nov 7, 2007 22:21

Burt Johnson mindstorm-inc.com> wrote:
> Doc O'Leary 4q2007.subsume.com> wrote:
>
>> When the web site
>> for it says "e-mail capabilities are somewhat rudimentary", it makes
>> *zero* sense to have the first thing prompted for be email settings.
>
> I wish it would just drop the email part too. So I just don't use it.
>
> The newsreader portion is the best I have tried, and I have pretty much
> tried them all...
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Re: [ANN] MacSOUP 2.8.2 available         


Author: Per Rønne
Date: Nov 8, 2007 00:09

Doc O'Leary 4q2007.subsume.com> wrote:
> It takes more than having Mac
> in the name to make software user friendly.

The real userfriendly part of MacSOUP is the the graphical way it shows
a thread's tree structure, and how you can navigate between nodes with
the numerical keyboard.
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk
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Re: [ANN] MacSOUP 2.8.2 available         


Author: Doc O'Leary
Date: Nov 8, 2007 07:38

In article news.verizon.net>,
"D. Kirkpatrick" sunclad.com> wrote:
> In article
> sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
> Doc O'Leary 4q2007.subsume.com> wrote:
>
>
>> asshats
>
> Is there a Wiki for that word?
>
> :-)))

I don't know, but there's definitely a nice entry on Urban Dictionary:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=asshat

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Re: [ANN] MacSOUP 2.8.2 available         


Author: Doc O'Leary
Date: Nov 8, 2007 07:57

In article <1i780kt.1inhxzaloz2psN%%burt@mindstorm-inc.com>,
burt@mindstorm-inc.com (Burt Johnson) wrote:
> Doc O'Leary 4q2007.subsume.com> wrote:
>
>> When the web site
>> for it says "e-mail capabilities are somewhat rudimentary", it makes
>> *zero* sense to have the first thing prompted for be email settings.
>
> I wish it would just drop the email part too. So I just don't use it.

When the setup "wizard" forces you to configure it, you can't just
ignore it. It's a huge warning flag right off the bat that demonstrates
muddled thinking by the developer.
> The newsreader portion is the best I have tried, and I have pretty much
> tried them all...

I've tried them all, too, and am always left with the desire to develop
my own. I see many people who swear by MacSOUP, but as a new user it
sure looks like the developer is doing everything possible to make it
unattractive out of the box as a Usenet reader on Mac OS X.
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Re: [ANN] MacSOUP 2.8.2 available         


Author: Per Rønne
Date: Nov 8, 2007 09:10

Doc O'Leary 4q2007.subsume.com> wrote:
> In article <1i780kt.1inhxzaloz2psN%%burt@mindstorm-inc.com>,
> burt@mindstorm-inc.com (Burt Johnson) wrote:
>> The newsreader portion is the best I have tried, and I have pretty much
>> tried them all...
>
> I've tried them all, too, and am always left with the desire to develop
> my own. I see many people who swear by MacSOUP, but as a new user it
> sure looks like the developer is doing everything possible to make it
> unattractive out of the box as a Usenet reader on Mac OS X.

As soon as you lean the shortcuts to navigate within a single thread
[using the numerical keypad] you will realize how good it is.

The only major drawback being the lacking unicode support.
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk
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Re: [ANN] MacSOUP 2.8.2 available         


Author: D. Kirkpatrick
Date: Nov 8, 2007 16:15

In article
sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Doc O'Leary 4q2007.subsume.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know, but there's definitely a nice entry on Urban Dictionary:
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=asshat

LOL!!!

I have a new word!
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Re: [ANN] MacSOUP 2.8.2 available         


Author: Walter Bushell
Date: Nov 8, 2007 21:26

In article <1i79xhr.1e1ldog10709cqN%%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> Burt Johnson mindstorm-inc.com> wrote:
>
>> Doc O'Leary 4q2007.subsume.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When the web site
>>> for it says "e-mail capabilities are somewhat rudimentary"...
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