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Author: Nick Piggott (GCap Media plc, UK)Nick Piggott (GCap Media plc, UK) Date: May 17, 2008 05:31
I've finally fished out my small remaining collection of A series &
RISC PC, and trying to deal with the various states of battery leaks.
I'm looking for some experience here before I commit lots of time to
restoring the machines (as a rank amateur) rather than sadly saying
goodbye to them:
A420/1
It looks like the disastrous leakage of the 2 x AA cells has been
contained by the battery holder, so as long as I replace that, would
there by any other long-term problems from keeping it in a cupboard
for em.. 12 years?
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Author: saxonsaxon Date: May 18, 2008 03:32
On 17 May, 13:31, "Nick Piggott (GCap Media plc, UK)"
gmail.com> wrote:
> I've finally fished out my small remaining collection of A series &
> RISC PC, and trying to deal with the various states of battery leaks.
>
> I'm looking for some experience here before I commit lots of time to
> restoring the machines (as a rank amateur) rather than sadly saying
> goodbye to them:
>
> A420/1
> It looks like the disastrous leakage of the 2 x AA cells has been
> contained by the battery holder, so as long as I replace that, would
> there by any other long-term problems from keeping it in a cupboard
> for em.. 12 years?
>
> A3000
> Saddest story. The battery was in an advanced state of leaking, so
> I've whipped it off, and cleaned the board down with a brush. The
> underside looks pristine; the top side has some discolouration, but
> the tracks I've tested are buzzing out ok. There's some green ...
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Author: druckdruck Date: May 18, 2008 03:56
On 17 May 2008 "Nick Piggott (GCap Media plc, UK)"
gmail.com> wrote:
> RISC PC
> I absolutely cannot shift screw BS1 to get the motherboard off to be
> able to look at the underside - am I missing something here, or is it
> just a brute force issue?
Yep, get the brace bar out.
> The topside looks fine. Should it boot
> without the battery, or is this also an ominous sign?
It should boot up, but it will either have the CMOS reset or
corrupted. You may have to do a delete power on every time.
> Would really appreciate any experience with these issues; from a brief
> scan through the prior postings, it looks like I've probably let the
> batteries go way further than I should have done, so I don't know if
> any of the problems are past the point of return or not?
The A3000 sounds like its beyond repair.
---druck
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Date: May 18, 2008 11:17
druck druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> It should boot up, but it will either have the CMOS reset or
> corrupted. You may have to do a delete power on every time.
>
> The A3000 sounds like its beyond repair.
I'd try the delete power on first. One of my A7000 boards has no battery
which means I need to power on delete before anything will happen. Can't
quite remember the details but I don't think I get a display. I've put
a 1000uF capacitor where the battery should go which gives me about 5 mins
of CMOS retention, and after that I need to power on delete it the next time
I switch on.
Theo
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Author: Nick PiggottNick Piggott Date: May 19, 2008 00:40
On May 18, 7:17Â pm, Theo Markettos chiark.greenend.org.uk>
wrote:
> druck druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
>> It should boot up, but it will either have the CMOS reset or
>> corrupted. You may have to do a delete power on every time.
>
>> The A3000 sounds like its beyond repair.
>
> I'd try the delete power on first. Â One of my A7000 boards has no battery
> which means I need to power on delete before anything will happen. Â Can't
> quite remember the details but I don't think I get a display. I've put
> a 1000uF capacitor where the battery should go which gives me about 5 mins
> of CMOS retention, and after that I need to power on delete it the next time
> I switch on.
>
> Theo
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Author: Steffen HuberSteffen Huber Date: May 19, 2008 02:25
Nick Piggott wrote:
> The A3000 *appears* to be ok; without video, I assumed it booted to
> desktop, so pressed F12 (to get a CLI), and then CTRL+G, and it
> beeped. I blind typed BASIC, then VDU 7, and it beeped again. So I'm
> guessing it's OK. But I couldn't get video out of it any which way I
> tried.
Try it with your TV - the A3000 has a monochrome BAS output (the
Chinch socket) which you can connect to any FBAS input (like the
typical "Front AV" on amplifiers and TVs).
You just have to make sure that the A3000 is in "TV compatible
mode". Try a Power-On with 0 on the numpad.
Steffen
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Author: Derek HaslamDerek Haslam Date: May 23, 2008 15:44
In article
r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Nick Piggott gmail.com> wrote:
> Much to my incredible surprise, the A420 booted exactly
> as it was last used (1999), and started running the
> programme it was left to autostart. Howls of joy.
> Goodness only knows how that lasted in CMOS with two
> leaky AA batteries. So the A420 looks like a saver, if I
> can find a monitor to work with it.
Was the clock correct too?
Derek Haslam
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Author: Nick PiggottNick Piggott Date: May 25, 2008 08:26
On May 23, 11:44 pm, Derek Haslam wrote:
> In article
> r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Nick Piggott gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Much to my incredible surprise, the A420 booted exactly
>> as it was last used (1999), and started running the
>> programme it was left to autostart. Howls of joy.
>> Goodness only knows how that lasted in CMOS with two
>> leaky AA batteries. So the A420 looks like a saver, if I
>> can find a monitor to work with it.
>
> Was the clock correct too?
>
> Derek Haslam
>
> --
> Derek Haslam dhaslam atte boulsworth dotcodotuk
> Powerbase Support http://www.boulsworth.co.uk/
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Author: Steve FryattSteve Fryatt Date: Jun 10, 2008 10:10
> NiCads are becoming rarer and are less environmentally friendly than
> NiMh which have some other advantages. Can anyone suggest a reason why
> NiMH could not be used instead?
Yes: NiMH do *not* like being trickle charged on a permanent basis, which
is exactly what the RiscPC does. The remaining applications of NiCd are
usually for this reason.
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Date: Jun 13, 2008 05:34
Steve Fryatt wrote:
> On 7 Jun, Stuart wrote in message
> <4fabc073d2Stuart.winsor@ orpheusinternet.co.uk>:
>
> [RiscPC Battery Woes]
>
>> NiCads are becoming rarer and are less environmentally friendly than
>> NiMh which have some other advantages. Can anyone suggest a reason why
>> NiMH could not be used instead?
>
> Yes: NiMH do *not* like being trickle charged on a permanent basis, which
A MiMtHyd cell will work in an RPC.
Acorn changed from NiCd to NiMtHydride for new designs when that battery
technology became available in the 250mah button cell.
I don't remember if the RPC did, but it could and should have changed to
NiMtHy.
Paul Swindell, ex. Acorn.
> is exactly what the RiscPC does. The remaining applications of NiCd are
> usually for this reason.
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