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Author: spinoza1111spinoza1111 Date: Apr 13, 2008 03:17
A while back, I undertook not to post overmuch to this group apart
from status reports on a new programming language, spinoza, which
shall implement some ideas I've aired in discussion.
I promised an XML parser piece by March 30th since I need to convert
object state to something reasonable.
However, in testing the parser I noted that an xmlParser "is" a
progress reporter and since Bad Progress Reports that Suck are a bane,
and because progress reporting seems to me to have a nongraphical,
logical component ("I am processing entities of type e at entity n of
m where m may be unknown") as well as a visual component, I have
pushed xmParser testing on a stack and am working on progress
reports ... not of course this type of progress report but simply the
support of visual progress while the xmlParser, and countless other
tools, make progress.
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Author: Bruce C. BakerBruce C. Baker Date: Apr 13, 2008 15:28
> OK, so when the progressReporter software is done, I will make an
> announcement, that something is actually no shit done. Rather than
> post the code here, where its size will clutter and mean people will
> make rude remarks, I will announce that anyone who's interested may
> order a free copy of all the code by way of email (my email address is
> spinoza1111@ yahoo.com).
(Momentarily ignoring my own counsel of ignoring you, Ed.)
As if anyone here would be foolish enough to send you their email address.
(Recloaking.)
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Author: Vaclav HaismanVaclav Haisman Date: Apr 13, 2008 15:39
> [...]
People like this make me wonder whether freedom of speech is really a good thing.
--
VH
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Author: spinoza1111spinoza1111 Date: Apr 13, 2008 20:47
On Apr 14, 6:39Â am, Vaclav Haisman wrote:
> spinoza1111wrote, On 13.4.2008 12:17:> [...]
>
> People like this make me wonder whether freedom of speech is really a good thing.
...thank you for your honesty. Most people, especially the lower
middle class, really don't support real freedom of speech when someone
like me actually tries it. Sure, they are ready enough to allow
conventional messages of the sort that a controlled press or a
corporate newsletter prints and of the sort no-one actually reads.
But if someone actually engages reality as such, the usual "supporter
of free speech" is perfectly willing to see that person beat up in an
alleyway in the name of a quiet life for the majority.
>
> --
> VH
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Author: spinoza1111spinoza1111 Date: Apr 13, 2008 20:54
On Apr 14, 6:28Â am, "Bruce C. Baker" undisclosedlocation.net>
wrote:
>> OK, so when the progressReporter software is done, I will make an
>> announcement, that something is actually no shit done. Rather than
>> post the code here, where its size will clutter and mean people will
>> make rude remarks, I will announce that anyone who's interested may
>> order a free copy of all the code by way of email (my email address is
>> spinoza1...@ yahoo.com).
>
> (Momentarily ignoring my own counsel of ignoring you, Ed.)
>
> As if anyone here would be foolish enough to send you their email address.
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Author: Chris McDonaldChris McDonald Date: Apr 13, 2008 21:21
spinoza1111 yahoo.com> writes:
>.thank you for your honesty. Most people, especially the lower
>middle class, really don't support real freedom of speech when someone
>like me actually tries it. Sure, they are ready enough to allow
>conventional messages of the sort that a controlled press or a
>corporate newsletter prints and of the sort no-one actually reads.
All one can conclude from this is that you don't consider yourself in
the lower middle class, or that you're wrong.
Neither have anything to do with comp.programming, though.
--
Chris.
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Author: Richard HeathfieldRichard Heathfield Date: Apr 13, 2008 23:37
Vaclav Haisman said:
>> [...]
> People like this make me wonder whether freedom of speech is really a
> good thing.
Freedom of speech *is* a good thing.
Fortunately, we have freedom of listening. We are not required to listen to
gibberish, and many Usenet newsreading clients are quite well-furnished
with ways to filter it out automatically. Or we can simply shrug and move
on. Usenet conventions are for those who understand the value of
conventions (and of courtesy). Those who lack such understanding cannot be
persuaded to gain it, but neither is there any requirement imposed upon us
to listen to their verbiage.
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Author: spinoza1111spinoza1111 Date: Apr 14, 2008 00:31
On Apr 14, 2:41Â pm, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> Vaclav Haisman said:
>
>>> [...]
>> People like this make me wonder whether freedom of speech is really a
>> good thing.
>
> Freedom of speech *is* a good thing.
>
> Fortunately, we have freedom of listening. We are not required to listen to
> gibberish, and many Usenet newsreading clients are quite well-furnished
> with ways to filter it out automatically. Or we can simply shrug and move
> on. Usenet conventions are for those who understand the value of
> conventions (and of courtesy). Those who lack such understanding cannot be
> persuaded to gain it, but neither is there any requirement imposed upon us
> to listen to their verbiage.
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Author: Richard HeathfieldRichard Heathfield Date: Apr 14, 2008 00:38
spinoza1111 said:
> On Apr 14, 2:41 pm, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> Vaclav Haisman said:
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>>>> [...]
>>> People like this make me wonder whether freedom...
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Author: AnonymousAnonymous Date: Apr 14, 2008 02:09
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:42:17 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> Unfortunately, you are feeding the troll.
>
> No, you're wrong. I have no reason to believe that Vaclav Haisman is a
> troll.
I believe he is talking about your responses to him. (I should find a
news reader that can filter articles based on whether there's a parent
article by a certain author in their thread...)
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