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Author: Eris Discordia
Date: Aug 21, 2008 09:53

> Virtualization and jailing are hacks to work around the inherent

Virtualization is much more than that. It has a future and the future's
here. It also has a rather glorious past in IBM VM/CMS.
> restriction ('only root can become another user', hence su/sudo, only
> root can open certain ports, etc.) which Plan 9 cleanly does away
> with.

By assuming _anyone_ at a terminal is root, while sometimes the "terminal"
is not a terminal at all. What happens when your home computer is
bootstrapped? Is there a thing glenda can't do? I mean, if someone other
than you turns your home computer on is it OK for them to be entitled to
the same privileges that you normally are? Assuming there's method of
stopping them from disconnecting the hard disk inside and/or from peeking
into the data on it (there are practical solutions for both of these
problems).
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Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor         


Author: ron minnich
Date: Aug 21, 2008 10:14

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Eris Discordia
gmail.com> wrote:
> Basically, a terminal should not hold _any_ information on its users. Where
> does the security of not keeping authentication information on a so-called
> terminal go when you _keep_ it on the "terminal?" But with multiple users
> you're going to need authentication. Right?

Eris, this is getting a little boring. Are you really this ignorant of
what's going on? I don't mind ignorance
per se but you keep wasting people's time as they try to explain CS
101 to you. Maybe you could start a blog and we could
all ignore it -- it's much easier that way.
>
> My impression: the UNIX authentication "farce" happened because UNIX began
> as a replacement to a time-sharing system for more or less physically secure
> computers but then was downsized to an OS--many OS's, in fact--also usable
> on personal computers, e.g. 386BSD.

Your impression? Well, that's one way to go at it.. Of course, there
is the option of acquiring knowledge. It is more work however.
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Author: hiro
Date: Aug 21, 2008 11:36

> List manager: can we *please* just boot this guy until he comes back
> as a real person? It's getting old.

Why don't you just ignore eris or the whole thread? I don't get all the fuss.
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