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Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor         


Author: Eris Discordia
Date: Aug 19, 2008 17:01

> Wrong on so many levels.

Go read the responses 9people gave the original poster. You'll see why it's
_right_ on so many levels.
> Plan 9 obeys the UNIX way: tools that make jobs simpler.

A UNIX better than UNIX? I thought that was just the thing 9people claimed
to be past. Didn't I hear someone saying, "Plan 9 is not UNIX?" Ahem...
GNU's Not UNIX, too, nah?
> "Everything is a UTF-8 [...]"

Do me a favor. Fire up your beloved upas, use mail, and relay one email
through upas/smtpd to smtp.gmail.com:587 with the words "שָׁלוֹם
עֲלֵיכֶם" (Hebrew, Shalom aleichem) or "سلام علیکم"
(Arabic, Salam-on alaikom) to my address. Let's see if "the mail goes
through."
> "Everything is a UTF-8 text file or a mountable filesystem, even devices
> and severs" encourages transparency of modules: you can copy a file from
> a Gopher network in Tokyo to a mobile phone from Mexico or have the
> filesystem report how much free space is left without running a million
> commands or typing a thousand lines of code.
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Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor         


Author: Pietro Gagliardi
Date: Aug 19, 2008 17:33

On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Eris Discordia wrote:
>> Plan 9 obeys the UNIX way: tools that make jobs simpler.
>
> A UNIX better than UNIX? I thought that was just the thing 9people
> claimed to be past. Didn't I hear someone saying, "Plan 9 is not
> UNIX?" Ahem... GNU's Not UNIX, too, nah?

No, that's not what I said. I said that Plan 9 obeys the UNIX
philosophy, not that it was UNIX. GNU obeys this philosophy (up to the
point of where to draw the lines on the size of tools). And to some
extent, Windows (Windows Movie Maker doesn't call up another computer
now, does it?)
>> "Everything is a UTF-8 [...]"
>
> Do me a favor. Fire up your beloved upas, use mail, and relay one
> email through upas/smtpd to smtp.gmail.com:587 with the words
> "שָׁלוֹם עֲלֵיכֶם" (Hebrew, Shalom aleichem) or
> "سلام علیکم" (Arabic, Salam-on alaikom) to my address. Let's
> see if "the mail goes through."
>
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Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor         


Author: Iruata Souza
Date: Aug 19, 2008 18:33

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Eris Discordia
gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wrong on so many levels.
>
> Go read the responses 9people gave the original poster. You'll see why it's
> _right_ on so many levels.
>
>> Plan 9 obeys the UNIX way: tools that make jobs simpler.
>
> A UNIX better than UNIX? I thought that was just the thing 9people claimed
> to be past. Didn't I hear someone saying, "Plan 9 is not UNIX?" Ahem...
> GNU's Not UNIX, too, nah?
>
>> "Everything is a UTF-8 [...]"
>
> Do me a favor. Fire up your beloved upas, use mail, and relay one email
> through upas/smtpd to smtp.gmail.com:587 with the words "שָׁלוֹם עֲלֵיכֶם"
> (Hebrew, Shalom aleichem) or "سلام علیکم" (Arabic, Salam-on alaikom) to my
> address. Let's see if "the mail goes through."
> ...
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Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor         


Author: Eris Discordia
Date: Aug 19, 2008 18:52

> take it easy on the porn and get some real sex, eris. you're way too
> angry.

Sir, yessir! The Marines don't do Japanese, sir!

--On Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:31 PM -0300 Iruata Souza
gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Eris Discordia
> gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Wrong on so many levels.
>>
>> Go read the responses 9people gave the original poster. You'll see why
>> it's _right_...
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Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor         


Author: Pietro Gagliardi
Date: Aug 19, 2008 19:04

I have an idea, Eris. Why don't you fuck off and actually USE Plan 9
for once?
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Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor         


Author: Eris Discordia
Date: Aug 20, 2008 00:15

Been there, done that.

--On Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:00 PM -0400 Pietro Gagliardi
mac.com> wrote:
> I have an idea, Eris. Why don't you fuck off and actually USE Plan 9 for
> once?
>
>
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Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor         


Author: bb
Date: Aug 20, 2008 00:37

Eris Discordia schrieb:
> Been there, done that.
>
> --On Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:00 PM -0400 Pietro Gagliardi
> mac.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an idea, Eris. Why don't you fuck off and actually USE Plan 9 for
>> once?
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
"Unspeakable horrors from outer space paralyze the living and resurrect
the dead"

Isn`t that the manifesto of Plan 9?
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Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor         


Author: Dan Cross
Date: Aug 20, 2008 17:05

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Eris Discordia
gmail.com> wrote:
>> take it easy on the porn and get some real sex, eris. you're way too
>> angry.
>
> Sir, yessir! The Marines don't do Japanese, sir!

Clearly you've never been to Iwakuni.
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Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor         


Author: John Waters
Date: Aug 24, 2008 00:32

Small correction, it is actually " ال سلام " , or "As-Salaam" (the L
in AL elides with "shams" letters). It would also be inappropriate for
you to receive such a greeting, which is a du'a reserved for muslims
only. Since you are using the name "Eris, is the name of a "deity", it
is safe to assume you are not a muslim. :) It is also "As-salaamu",
there is a "damma" or "u" vowel atop then meem in "salaam".

"marhaban" is a more appropriate greeting in this case.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Eris Discordia
gmail.com> wrote:
> Do me a favor. Fire up your beloved upas, use mail, and relay one email
> through upas/smtpd to smtp.gmail.com:587 with the words "שָׁלוֹם עֲלֵיכֶם"
> (Hebrew, Shalom aleichem) or "سلام علیکم" (Arabic, Salam-on alaikom) to my
> address. Let's see if "the mail goes through."
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Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor         


Author: Eris Discordia
Date: Aug 24, 2008 11:25

One more bit on Arabic:

In a predicative sentence the subject is necessarily "Marfu'" (=
"مرفوع") which means it either has a "damma" (= "ضمه") or a
"dammatan" (= "ضمهٌ") on the ending letter. Whether the "damma" or the
"dammaton" is used depends on whether the subject is "Ma'rafa" (=
"معرفه", "known") or "Nakara" (= "نکره", "unknown"). When "Salam"
has the definite article "Al" it is considered "Ma'rafa" and therefore
receives the "damma" but when it is used without that article it is
"Nakara" and receives the "dammaton." So, both forms "Al-Salam-u" and
"Salam-on" are correct. However, the greeting in actual use is "Salam-on
alaikom."

--On Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:27 AM +0300 John Waters
gmail.com> wrote:
> Small correction, it is actually " ال سلام " , or "As-Salaam" (the L
> in AL elides with "shams" letters). It would also be inappropriate for
> you to receive such a greeting, which is a du'a reserved...
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