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Author: lejatorn
Date: Feb 7, 2008 09:23

Hi all,

to cut it short: how do you guys do it?

Since I am not to the point where I run almost everything in the same
acme window, I need quite a few windows when I'm on p9 or in rio from
p9p. And I am having trouble finding and raising to focus the one I need
when there are more than, say, five of them on a res of 1280x800.

Sqweek pointed me to winwatch which seems rather neat, but there is no
such thing in p9p as far as I know, and no keyboard shortcut to cycle
through the various windows (except in cinap's hacked rio ;) ).
So I assume there must be a way to work efficiently through the
windows and I'm curious to know what are everyone habits and tricks for
that.

Thanks,
Mathieu.

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Re: [9fans] managing windows in rio         


Author: andrey mirtchovski
Date: Feb 7, 2008 09:26

a non-plan9 solution: run rio with -virtuals num and have a few
different desktops, switching between them with the middle button.

i typically run 'rio -virtuals 4'

andrey

On Feb 7, 2008 10:22 AM, gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> to cut it short: how do you guys do it?
>
> Since I am not to the point where I run almost everything in the same
> acme window, I need...
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Re: [9fans] managing windows in rio         


Author: lejatorn
Date: Feb 7, 2008 09:46

Ah thx, way easier like that!

On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 10:25:57AM -0700, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
> a non-plan9 solution: run rio with -virtuals num and have a few
> different desktops, switching between them with the middle button...
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Re: [9fans] managing windows in rio         


Author: Lluís Batlle
Date: Feb 7, 2008 09:48

I use exactly the same virtuals. I really like the scrollwheel virtual
switching.
I also still use '-term xterm'.

But I wish I had a riofs, in order to write some scripts playing with
the windows, or using 'xbindkeys' for doing some wm tasks.

2008/2/7, andrey mirtchovski gmail.com>:
> a non-plan9 solution: run rio with -virtuals num and have a few
> different desktops, switching between them with the middle button.
>
> i typically...
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Re: [9fans] managing windows in rio         


Author: john
Date: Feb 7, 2008 10:00

> I use exactly the same virtuals. I really like the scrollwheel virtual
> switching.
> I also still use '-term xterm'.
>
> But I wish I had a riofs, in order to write some scripts playing with
> the windows, or using 'xbindkeys' for doing some wm tasks.
>
> 2008/2/7, andrey mirtchovski gmail.com>:
>> a non-plan9 solution: run rio with -virtuals num and have a few
>> different desktops, switching between them with the middle button.
>>
>> i typically run 'rio -virtuals 4'
>>
>> andrey
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2008 10:22 AM, gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> to cut it short: how do you guys do it?
>>> ...
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Re: [9fans] managing windows in rio         


Author: Steve Simon
Date: Feb 7, 2008 11:13

> I've quit using p9p rio... to use multiple desktops well, you need a scroll
> wheel, but using a scroll wheel for midclick is terrible. Now, I use a real
> 3 button mouse and stumpwm on Linux.
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Re: [9fans] managing windows in rio         


Author: john
Date: Feb 7, 2008 11:18

>> I've quit using p9p rio... to use multiple desktops well, you need a scroll
>> wheel, but using a scroll wheel for midclick is terrible. Now, I use a real
>> 3 button mouse and stumpwm on Linux.
>
> this _might_ appeal, but it might not.
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-ThinkPlus-Optical-3-Button-ScrollPoint/dp/B00007D...
>
> -Steve

We have some Lenovo 3-button/scrollpoint type mice here... the problem is that
since the scroller isn't really a wheel, more of a nub you push, it's difficult
to move only one desktop; as with the Mighty Mouse, it tends to skip through
several desktops.
I'm sticking to my Logitech 3-button PS/2 mouse for now; that's the mouse I
always suggest to new Plan 9 users. I have about 5 of them.

John
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Re: [9fans] managing windows in rio         


Author: Axel Belinfante
Date: Feb 7, 2008 11:46

>> I've quit using p9p rio... to use multiple desktops well, you need a scroll
>> wheel, but using a scroll wheel for midclick is terrible. Now, I use a real
>> 3 button mouse and stumpwm on Linux.

I'm using the 31P7405 that matches picture (expect for brand name :-) of
(found a few unexpectedly inexpensive on ebay)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-ThinkPlus-Optical-3-Button-ScrollPoint/dp/B00009V.../

before that one I've been using three button mice for years.
the middle button of the scrollpoint mouse is much farther away than
on the mice I used before, so occasionally I hit the scrollpoint
(blue thingy) while clicking the middle button.
neverthless, I never expected I would like the scroll point so much.
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Re: [9fans] managing windows in rio         


Author: Eris Discordia
Date: Feb 8, 2008 01:53

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:22:46 -0000, gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: [9fans] managing windows in rio         


Author: Anthony Sorace
Date: Feb 8, 2008 03:29

On Feb 8, 2008 4:47 AM, Eris Discordia gmail.com> wrote:
> I have had similar questions about ways to streamline my Plan 9 experience
> since like... a week ago (that is when I began using it).

For starters, I'd suggest that if you've been using it for a week,
you've not been using it long enough to properly internalize the
interface. It's designed to become transparent - to be used without
thinking about it - but that takes a little bit of time. Once you're
there, however, you'll likely be faster than with other interfaces.

That being said, there are answers to some of these questions which
may keep you happy. :-)
> 1. to change the focus except by mouse?

Probably not in the way you're thinking of, but yes. Rio exports a
file system interface which permits manipulation of windows. This is
useful for programatically changing the focus, but there isn't a set
of key bindings, which may be what you're thinking of.
> 2. to change acme's chording behavior?

No. But what would you like to change about it?
> 3. to change acme's focus model from point-to-type to click-to-type?
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