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[9fans] apropos of the glendix post         


Author: ron minnich
Date: Sep 2, 2008 16:09

I just stumbled across a talk I gave in 2002:

Here's one slide:

How to fix this (2): 9sys
We are building a Plan 9 system call set into Linux
It is only 38 calls
Three steps
Initial support as ioctl's from a device (/dev/9sys)
Direct integration into Linux system call table
Remove non-Plan 9 system calls (ca. 235 of them)
Result should be Linux portability with Plan 9 architecture
Greatly pared-down footprint
Early code is working now

Note that the system calls back then were 235 in number, are 300 now.
Note that one of the steps was "remove

good luck with glendix, it will be fun if it works. I stopped work on
9sys when lucent fixed the license.

ron
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Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post         


Author: Uriel
Date: Sep 2, 2008 16:25

Interesting. Where is the source for 9sys?

Peace

uriel
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Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post         


Author: ron minnich
Date: Sep 2, 2008 16:46

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Uriel gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting. Where is the source for 9sys?
>

It's not worth much.

I've got it if anyone wants it but I would bet glendix is further
along and much better.

ron
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Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post         


Author: Skip Tavakkolian
Date: Sep 2, 2008 18:42

other than trying every itiration possible (sum over histories of
software?), i'm not getting the reason why glendix is a good idea.
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Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post         


Author: ron minnich
Date: Sep 2, 2008 20:47

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9nut@9netics.com> wrote:
> other than trying every itiration possible (sum over histories of
> software?), i'm not getting the reason why glendix is a good idea.
>

for me, it's the same thing over and over again. drivers.

ron
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Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post         


Author: erik quanstrom
Date: Sep 3, 2008 06:07

> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9nut@9netics.com> wrote:
>> other than trying every itiration possible (sum over histories of
>> software?), i'm not getting the reason why glendix is a good idea.
>>
>
> for me, it's the same thing over and over again. drivers.

what drivers are the problem?

- erik
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Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post         


Author: Anant Narayanan
Date: Sep 3, 2008 10:42

On 03-Sep-08, at 3:02 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9nut@9netics.com>
>> wrote:
>>> other than trying every itiration possible (sum over histories of
>>> software?), i'm not getting the reason why glendix is a good idea.
>>>
>>
>> for me, it's the same thing over and over again. drivers.
>
> what drivers are the problem?

Any ethernet or video card that Plan 9 doesn't support (there are
plenty).

--
Anant
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Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post         


Author: erik quanstrom
Date: Sep 3, 2008 10:48

>>> for me, it's the same thing over and over again. drivers.
>>
>> what drivers are the problem?
>
> Any ethernet or video card that Plan 9 doesn't support (there are
> plenty).

surely you don't own *all* the unsupported cards?

- erik
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Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post         


Author: Anant Narayanan
Date: Sep 3, 2008 11:20

On 03-Sep-08, at 7:45 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>>>> for me, it's the same thing over and over again. drivers.
>>>
>>> what drivers are the problem?
>>
>> Any ethernet or video card that Plan 9 doesn't support (there are
>> plenty).
>
> surely you don't own *all* the unsupported cards?

No, but I use a Macbook Pro, and I have friends who would like to run
Plan 9 but can't because of the hardware they own. Think of Glendix as
a stop-gap solution until they get new hardware or until more drivers
are written for Plan 9 :-)

--
Anant
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Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post         


Author: lucio
Date: Sep 3, 2008 11:25

> surely you don't own *all* the unsupported cards?

The growing integration makes you own at least one of each :-(

I got the impression that Ron's particular bugbear was the integrated
wireless adapter.

++L
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