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Re: Linux on the desktop         


Author: Gordon
Date: Feb 8, 2008 18:49

Snit wrote:
> but clearly there is something amiss with the Linux system and the Linux model for it to
> have so much trouble breaking into a large market where it *gives* its
> product away.
>

it's not Linux that is the problem - it's been the predatory
monopolistic economic blackmail of MS in the past that is the problem -
they have locked down their customers (OEMs) so much that there's been
NO free competition at all. In other words, MS said to the OEMs -
Windows or nothing. Thus the vast majority of Joe Public don't KNOW
about or have EVER seen Linux. because MS has denied them that freedom.
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Re: Linux on the desktop         


Author: Snit
Date: Feb 8, 2008 18:57

"Gordon" gmail.com.invalid> stated in post
foi4o9$fmp$1@news.mixmin.net on 2/8/08 10:49 AM:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> but clearly there is something amiss with the Linux system and the Linux
>> model for it to
>> have so much trouble breaking into a large market where it *gives* its
>> product away.
>>
>
> it's not Linux that is the problem - it's been the predatory
> monopolistic economic blackmail of MS in the past that is the problem -
> they have locked down their customers (OEMs) so much that there's been
> NO free competition at all. In other words, MS said to the OEMs -
> Windows or nothing. Thus the vast majority of Joe Public don't KNOW
> about or have EVER seen Linux. because MS has denied them that freedom.
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Re: Linux on the desktop         


Author: Gordon
Date: Feb 8, 2008 19:00

Snit wrote:
>
> That plays a part... but clearly is *not* the full picture... look at how
> well Apple does with a product that is tied to specific hardware... hardware
> that you cannot even get low end. Even in Apple's darkest days they were
> well above the 1%% Linux has been able to achieve by *giving* their products
> away and letting it run on just about any hardware (ok, not hardware such as
> a wrench, but you get the idea!)
>
>

Macs already had a niche market because there was no desktop publishing
software available for PC's.
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Re: Linux on the desktop         


Author: Linonut
Date: Feb 8, 2008 19:42

* Gordon peremptorily fired off this memo:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> That plays a part... but clearly is *not* the full picture... look at how
>> well Apple does with a product that is tied to specific hardware... hardware
>> that you cannot even get low end. Even in Apple's darkest days they were
>> well above the 1%% Linux has been able to achieve by *giving* their products
>> away and letting it run on just about any hardware (ok, not hardware such as
>> a wrench, but you get the idea!)
>
> Macs already had a niche market because there was no desktop publishing
> software available for PC's.

Not to mention that Mac is advertised on TV.

(IBM advertised Linux on TV, but for servers.)

Snit doesn't realize that people:

1. Need to know about a "product".

2. Need to download the "product" (and it isn't a small package
download, it is a download that can be gigabytes in size).

3. Need to know how to burn an ISO image of the "product".
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Re: Linux on the desktop         


Author: Rick
Date: Feb 8, 2008 21:13

Snit wrote:
> "Gordon" gmail.com.invalid> stated in post
> foi4o9$fmp$1@news.mixmin.net on 2/8/08 10:49 AM:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> but clearly there is something amiss with the Linux system and the Linux
>>> model for it to
>>> have so much trouble breaking into a large market where it *gives* its
>>> product away.
>>>
>> it's not Linux that is the problem - it's been the predatory
>> monopolistic economic blackmail of MS in the past that is the problem -
>> they have locked down their customers (OEMs) so much that there's been
>> NO free competition at all. In other words, MS said to the OEMs -
>> Windows or nothing. Thus the vast majority of Joe Public don't KNOW
>> about or have EVER seen Linux. because MS has denied them that freedom.
>
> That plays a part... but clearly is *not* the full picture... look at how
> well Apple does with a product that is tied to specific hardware... hardware ...
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Re: Linux on the desktop         


Author: Snit
Date: Feb 8, 2008 23:02

"Gordon" gmail.com.invalid> stated in post
foi5bf$fom$4@news.mixmin.net on 2/8/08 11:00 AM:
> Snit wrote:
>
>>
>> That plays a part... but clearly is *not* the full picture... look at how
>> well Apple does with a product that is tied to specific hardware... hardware
>> that you cannot even get low end. Even in Apple's darkest days they were
>> well above the 1%% Linux has been able to achieve by *giving* their products
>> away and letting it run on just about any hardware (ok, not hardware such as
>> a wrench, but you get the idea!)
>>
> Macs already had a niche market because there was no desktop publishing
> software available for PC's.

Sure: having good apps pulls people to an OS. There are some good apps on
Linux but not sure about any killer apps.

--
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
--Aldous Huxley
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Re: Linux on the desktop         


Author: Snit
Date: Feb 8, 2008 23:14

"Rick" nomail.com> stated in post 13qpf4p8e2jh030@news.supernews.com
on 2/8/08 1:13 PM:
> Snit wrote:
>> "Gordon" gmail.com.invalid> stated in post
>> foi4o9$fmp$1@news.mixmin.net on 2/8/08 10:49 AM:
>>
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> but clearly there is something amiss with the Linux...
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Re: Linux on the desktop         


Author: Rick
Date: Feb 8, 2008 23:36

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:14:58 -0700, Snit wrote:
> "Rick" nomail.com> stated in post
> 13qpf4p8e2jh030@news.supernews.com on 2/8/08 1:13 PM:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>> "Gordon" gmail.com.invalid> stated in post
>>> foi4o9$fmp$1@news.mixmin...
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Re: Linux on the desktop         


Author: JEDIDIAH
Date: Feb 9, 2008 01:33

On 2008-02-08, Snit gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> "Gordon" gmail.com.invalid> stated in post
> foi4o9$fmp$1@news.mixmin.net on 2/8/08 10:49 AM:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> but clearly there is something amiss with the Linux system and the Linux
>>> model for it to
>>> have so much trouble breaking into a large market where it *gives* its
>>> product away.
>>>
>>
>> it's not Linux that is the problem - it's been the predatory
>> monopolistic economic blackmail of MS in the past that is the problem -
>> they have locked down their customers (OEMs) so much that there's been
>> NO free competition at all. In other words, MS said to the OEMs -
>> Windows or nothing. Thus the vast majority of Joe Public don't KNOW
>> about or have EVER seen Linux. because MS has denied them that freedom.
>
> That plays a part... but clearly is *not* the full picture... look at how ...
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Re: Linux on the desktop         


Author: JEDIDIAH
Date: Feb 9, 2008 01:37

On 2008-02-08, Snit gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> "Rick" nomail.com> stated in post 13qpf4p8e2jh030@news.supernews.com
> on 2/8/08 1:13 PM:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>> "Gordon" gmail.com.invalid> stated in post
>>> foi4o9$fmp$1@news.mixmin.net on 2/8/08 10:49 AM:
>>>
>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> but clearly there is something amiss with the Linux system and the Linux
>>>>> model for it to
>>>>> have so much trouble breaking into a large market where it *gives* its
>>>>> product away.
>>>>>
>>>> it's not Linux that is the problem - it's been the predatory
>>>> monopolistic economic blackmail of MS in the past that is the problem -
>>>> they have locked down their customers (OEMs) so much that there's been
>>>> NO free competition at all. In other words, MS said to the OEMs -
>>>> Windows or nothing. Thus the vast majority of Joe Public don't KNOW ...
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