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Author: The Ghost In The MachineThe Ghost In The Machine Date: May 13, 2008 14:39
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Snit
gallopinginsanity.com>
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on Tue, 13 May 2008 13:42:53 -0700
gallopinginsanity.com>:
> "JEDIDIAH" stated in post
> slrng2jtev.kad.jedi@nomad.mishnet on 5/13/08 1:11 PM:
>
>> On 2008-05-13, Keith Ream gmail.com> wrote:
>>> RonB wrote:
>>>> rick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow... talk about Hadron being totally clueless.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, I have always maintained a consistent UI is good for users.
>>>>> However, I, unlike you and Snit don't seem to under stand that KDE
>>>>> and Gnome (for example) are examples of desktop environments that
>>>>> each have a consistent UI. Each have a consistent UI. do you get it
>>>>> yet?
>>>> ...
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Author: SnitSnit Date: May 13, 2008 19:06
"Rick" nomail.com> stated in post
rfidncxkGr4RkrfVnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/13/08 3:00 PM:
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 12:57:35 -0700, Keith Ream wrote:
>
>> RonB wrote:
>>> rick wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow... talk about Hadron being totally clueless.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I have always maintained a consistent...
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Author: SnitSnit Date: May 13, 2008 19:10
"Rick" nomail.com> stated in post
rfidnc9kGr6ajbfVnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/13/08 3:02 PM:
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 03:07:28 -0400, rick wrote:
>
> (snip)
>>
>> Again, I have always maintained a consistent UI is good for users.
>> However, I, unlike you and Snit don't seem to under stand that KDE and
>> Gnome (for example) are examples of desktop environments that each have
>> a consistent UI. Each have a consistent UI. do you get it yet?
>
> Rats... a typing error. Correction follows:
>
>
> Again, I have always maintained a consistent UI is good for users.
> However, you and Snit don't seem to under stand that KDE and Gnome (for
> example) are examples of desktop environments that each have a consistent
> UI. Each have a consistent UI. do you get it yet?
Sometimes you get why such a fractured UI is bad:
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Author: SnitSnit Date: May 13, 2008 19:25
"The Ghost In The Machine" sirius.tg00suus7038.net> stated in post
2depf5-ms7.ln1@sirius.tg00suus7038.net on 5/13/08 2:39 PM:
...
>> General UI conventions should be the same... as they are on, say, OS X (for
>> the most part). Desktop Linux does a poor job of this, as I have repeatedly
>> proved:
>>
>> From PCLOS:
>>
>> Poorly done menus
>> < http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS-menu.pdf>
>
> (The questions, slightly modified; I hope you'll agree these
> make a little more sense:)
Mine were made quickly... I have no problem with your improvements. Thanks.
> 1) should "Quit", "Exit", or "Close" be used?
>
> 2) Should there be an icon next to Quit/Exit/Close? If so, what?
>
> 3) Should the menu be visible upon mouseover or should one
> left or right...
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Author: HadronHadron Date: May 14, 2008 03:35
rick nomail.com> writes:
> Hadron wrote:
>> Snit gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
>>
>>> "Rick" nomail.com> stated in post
>>> pc2dnYCa1M_J_bTVnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/13/08 2:33 AM:
>>>
>>>>> I count 4...
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Author: HadronHadron Date: May 14, 2008 03:36
RonB gmail.com> writes:
> rick wrote:
>
>> Wow... talk about Hadron being totally clueless.
>>
>> Again, I have always maintained a consistent UI is good for users.
>> However, I, unlike you and Snit don't seem to under stand that KDE and
>> Gnome (for example) are examples of desktop environments that each have
>> a consistent UI. Each have a consistent UI. do you get it yet?
>
> I love the way the cranks try to take the facts and bend them to fit
> whatever crank point they're trying to make. Macs are only outselling Linux
> for *one* reason, a consistent UI. Doesn't have anything to do with the
> fact that Mac is an established hardware company that, to many, is the only
> alternative to Vista ME. Nah, it's that "consistent UI" thing -- and *only*
> that.
>
> Good grief.
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Author: The Ghost In The MachineThe Ghost In The Machine Date: May 14, 2008 07:12
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Snit
gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote
on Tue, 13 May 2008 19:25:47 -0700
gallopinginsanity.com>:
> "The Ghost In The Machine" sirius.tg00suus7038.net> stated in post
> 2depf5-ms7.ln1@sirius.tg00suus7038.net on 5/13/08 2:39 PM:
>
> ...
>>> General UI conventions should be the same... as they are on, say, OS X (for
>>> the most part). Desktop Linux does a poor job of this, as I have repeatedly
>>> proved:
>>>
>>> From PCLOS:
>>>
>>> Poorly done menus
>>> < http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS-menu.pdf>
>>
>> (The questions, slightly modified; I hope you'll agree these
>> make a little more sense:) ...
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Author: SnitSnit Date: May 14, 2008 11:40
> rick nomail.com> writes:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>> Snit gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> "Rick" nomail.com> stated in post
>>>> pc2dnYCa1M_J_bTVnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@supernews.com...
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Author: SnitSnit Date: May 14, 2008 11:41
> RonB gmail.com> writes:
>
>> rick wrote:
>>
>>> Wow... talk about Hadron being totally clueless.
>>>
>>> Again, I have always maintained a consistent UI is good for users.
>>> However...
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Author: SnitSnit Date: May 14, 2008 11:50
"The Ghost In The Machine" sirius.tg00suus7038.net> stated in post
qj8rf5-q1i.ln1@sirius.tg00suus7038.net on 5/14/08 7:12 AM:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Snit
> gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote
> on Tue, 13 May 2008 19:25:47 -0700
> gallopinginsanity.com>:
>> "The Ghost In The Machine"
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