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Author: Dan JacobsonDan Jacobson Date: Dec 20, 2006 08:11
Can I feel even better about using perl vs. python, as apparently
python's dependence of formatting, indentation, etc. vs. perl's
"(){};" etc. makes writing python programs perhaps very device
dependent. Whereas perl can be written on a tiny tiny screen, and can
withstand all kinds of users with various disabilities, etc.?
Also perl is easier to squeeze into makefiles.
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Author: Martin P. HellwigMartin P. Hellwig Date: Dec 20, 2006 09:50
Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Can I feel even better about using perl vs. python, as apparently
> python's dependence of formatting, indentation, etc. vs. perl's
> "(){};" etc. makes writing python programs perhaps very device
> dependent. Whereas perl can be written on a tiny tiny screen, and can
> withstand all kinds of users with various disabilities, etc.?
> Also perl is easier to squeeze into makefiles.
>
Quite punny title though I assume you are really serious and mean people
with a physical disability, I won't comment any further on this subject
:-), if I already offended anyone, please excuse me, since I'm original
from Germany I'm not supposed to be funny.
--
mph
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Author: kraklekrakle Date: Dec 20, 2006 10:10
On Dec 20, 10:11 am, Dan Jacobson jidanni.org> wrote:> Whereas perl can be written on a tiny tiny screen, and can
> withstand all kinds of users with various disabilities, etc.?
Well... yes and no... While the handicapped users who are in a wheel
chair will find Perl easy to use the blind will struggle. From my past
experience posting here I think it's safe to say most retarts use
Perl... So the mentally challenged will have no problem using it
either... I mean, Tad uses it..
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Author: Steven D'ApranoSteven D'Aprano Date: Dec 20, 2006 14:03
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:11:10 +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Can I feel even better about using perl vs. python, as apparently
> python's dependence of formatting, indentation, etc. vs. perl's
> "(){};" etc. makes writing python programs perhaps very device
> dependent.
I can't think of what sort of computer device you are thinking of that
can't handle indented text. Wait -- my old HP-48C programmable calculator
perhaps?
As for perl and () {} etc, I would have thought that for anyone with poor
eyesight, or using a tiny screen, they would be difficult to tell apart.
> Whereas perl can be written on a tiny tiny screen, and can
> withstand all kinds of users with various disabilities, etc.?
"Withstand all kinds of users"? I can't imagine what you mean by that.
> Also perl is easier to squeeze into makefiles.
Perhaps you are right. In eight years of writing Python code, I've never
once needed to squeeze Python into a makefile, so I don't know how hard it
will be.
--
Steven.
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Author: A. Sinan UnurA. Sinan Unur Date: Dec 20, 2006 15:50
Dan Jacobson jidanni.org> wrote in
news:87slfalf8h.fsf@jidanni.org:
> Can I feel even better about using perl vs. python
Initiating a Perl vs Python debate is the mark of a troll. Bye!
Sinan
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Author: Randal L. SchwartzRandal L. Schwartz Date: Dec 20, 2006 17:11
>>>>> "A" == A Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> writes:
A> Initiating a Perl vs Python debate is the mark of a troll. Bye!
And an obfuscated, indented troll at that. :)
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Author: anno4000anno4000 Date: Dec 21, 2006 04:19
Randal L. Schwartz stonehenge.com> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:>>>>>> "A" == A Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> writes:
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>> Initiating a Perl vs Python debate is the mark of a troll. Bye!
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> And an obfuscated, indented troll at that. :)
...armed with significant whitespace. Beware!
Anno
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Author: Veli-Pekka TätiläVeli-Pekka Tätilä Date: Dec 21, 2006 05:07
Hi Dan,
I won't cross-post to a group I don't read, so this one goes only in
comp.lang.perl.misc.
Dan Jacobson wrote:
> apparently python's dependence of formatting, indentation, etc. vs.
> perl's "(){};" etc. makes writing python programs perhaps very device
> dependent.
> perl can be written on a tiny tiny screen, and can withstand all kinds
> of users with various disabilities, etc.?
Lemme address small screensize and input device constraints first. I've
tried writing Python on a series 60 celphone lacking a querty keyboard and
it is no fun. Getting all of the punctuation out is tedious, the dictionary
cannot auto-compmlete stuff smartly and the display is extremely small. That
being said maybe a case-insensitive language with lots of English would be
easier to write with such a setup. I'd go so far to say, based on an
intuitive notion, that neither Perl nor Python is very well optimized for
tiny screens or keyboards in which special chars are hard to enter, though
arguably Perl does have source filtering.
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Author: zentarazentara Date: Dec 22, 2006 04:53
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:07:42 +0200, "Veli-Pekka Tätilä"
wrote:
>Another cconsideration are the GUis visually impaired people are producing.
>They should be accessible to screen readers to be useful. TK is out as I
>said. Fortunately Perl has Win32::GUI and Python WX Widgets both of which
>are accessible, I think.
You didn't mention Gtk2's ATK (Accessability ToolKit).
I havn't done anything with it myself, but it is described at
http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gap/
Perl's Gtk2 port contains accesability to the ATK library.
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Author: Veli-Pekka TätiläVeli-Pekka Tätilä Date: Dec 23, 2006 04:58
zentara wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:07:42 +0200, "Veli-Pekka T
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