Didier Verna wrote:
> Slobodan Blazeski
gmail.com> wrote:>> Else stop whining, you choosed to play something that's music for you
>> but the masses aren't accepting it.
>
> No I'm not gonna stop whining. I'm only human and I have the right to
> be sensitive on some subjects. Who's not ?[1] You know, it's actually a
> good thing to be really /involved/ in one or two things in your life.
Ok sorry for telling to stop whining.
>
> But you seem to misunderstand the things I'm ranting about. Although I'm
> forced to admit that seeing under-talented teenagers playing crap and
> people actually enjoying it is a bit upsetting, I don't really care
> about that. What I do care about is the industry misleading people.
> Like:
>
> Oh, you're a Jazz musician... cool. I like Jazz /too/. What do you think
> of Norah Jones ?[2]
Norah Jones who?
>
>
> What I do care about is when important Jazz festivals start to feature
> Manu Dibango or Cesaria Evora because it brings more audience.
She was on Skopje Jazz Festival
>What I do
> care about, is the radio playing 99%% crap because it's safer on the
> economic level, whereas studies have shown that if you push something
> else, less mainstream, just a bit, people actually start to enjoy it as
> well (not talking about Jazz in particular).
Radios are economic entities, meaning they're there for the money. And
where they could get more money from commercials. From 92%% who enjoy
Rihanna or from 8%% who listen various non mainstream music.
>
> But then again, that's just my sensitive point because I'm a musician
> investing a lot of effort in my art and I know better on that subject.
Good I'm just an ex-musician.
> On the other hand, I like a good crappy mainstream Hollywood thriller
> from time to time. Only I'm well aware that it's crap. And I leave the
> burden of getting upset and trying to educate people to somebody else.
> I've got enough on my hands already :-)
>
>
>> Aren't people surprised when they found out that Armstrong was
>> actually a jazz icon.
>
> In fact, no. But they're really puzzled to discover the real Bobby
> McFerrin (see The Voice and Spontaneous Inventions) after having only
> heard of him through "Don't worry, be crappy" on the radio.
Cool, if there wasn't don't worry be happy they won't hear his other
works at all.
>
>
>> They only heard of him because of what a wondeful world? And I doubt
>> you're better jazzer than Satchmo.
>
> Sure. What was the point of this last sentence? Oh, I know!
No you don't. The point was no matter how good you are you can't be
famous unless you play mainstream. Armstrong was jazz titan, but
people only heard his lesser works.
>
> Funny, when people try to show off and pretend they know something about
> Jazz, they inevitably cite Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong and then
> refer to him by his nickname. The next step is to know Charlie Parker
> and refer to him as "Bird", but that takes another university degree...
Bird and Chet live at trade winds is the only album I had from Parker.
I don't know much about it. I ahev some albums by Duke Ellington,
Armstrong, Miles Davis, and some bulgarian accordeon jazz (Petar
Ralchev) . That's it. I don't even know why they say that smooth jazz
isn't a real jazz. So I take your words for it.
>
>
>
>
> Footnotes:
> [1] Hint: you're a lisper right? Suppose somebody tries to show you
> how cool C++ is and all the things you can do with it and
> that-s-really-the-best-language-ever. Doesn't that upsets you just
> a wee bit?
Not anymore. Different people have different best languages ever. If
likes to wait for 30 minutes compile times wee.. he could do some push
ups, that's what was I doing , and I was in top shape, now with that
damn repl I'm 20kgs overweight.
I don't know anything about Norah Jones. So according to your post I
assume it's something like people saying that Ruby is acceptable lisp.
Ruby is not lisp, damn it. But try to explain this to people who only
do c-ish languages , you can't. I had conversati0on like this.
Me: I was doing some lisping?
X: You mean programming?
Me: Not lisping.
X: What's the difference?
Me: Programming is like driving good for nothing family caravan into a
hot day at the rush hour peak while you're already 20minutes late for
work.
Lisping is like driving brand new Maseratti convertible on a highway
without a speed limit.
