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Re: Job Market for Lisp and Haskell programmers, serious question.         

Group: comp.lang.functional · Group Profile
Author: Slobodan Blazeski
Date: Sep 7, 2008 09:46

On Sep 6, 11:31 pm, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
wrote:
> Raffael Cavallaro il-vous-plait-mac.com> writes:
>> On 2008-09-06 10:36:58 -0400, "John Thingstad" said:
>
>>> These people become billionares from copying things. Most of the
>>> artist's  don't.
>
>> Most knowledge workers of any kind don't become billionaires. This is
>> no reason to steal knowledge workers' work product.
>
> John refered to the people who make copies, not to the knowledge
> workers.
>
> If programmers earned so much money with their art, they wouldn't be
> giving their work for free on the Internet.  Some musical artists also
> start to do the same.
Sounds famigliar. The market values the goods and services offered.
When you are nobody, and you can't sell your product offering it for
free might make you something good. Your fan base will grow. More the
people like your product better chance to monetize it. Maybe some club
owner will like your music and you'll get a gig.
Friend of mine used to be fan of Metallica when they were nobody,
their fans were copying their music and spreading to their friends.
Later they got a label contract.
>
> Those who earn a lot of money are the editors, the production
> companies.
>
>>> No other industry execept entertaiment and programs have these profit  margins.
>
>> Profit margins are high in industries which are not commoditized. This
>> is no reason to steal knowledge workers' work product.
>
> Go tell them, go tell to the "industries" with these high profit margins.
>
> If they sell knowledge products for such a high price, why don't they
> give back more to the knowledge workers?
Because they can.
Why don't companies let you choose do you want to work overtime?
Because they can.
Why don't more and more companies pay for overtime that overtime?
Because they can.

Have you seen the movie about Henry Ford? After the production line
was installed in the factory, the managers were always speeding it up
more and more every day until the people couldn't keep it up anymore.
In the eyes of the bean counters line was only a number and speeding
it up for 2%% seemed nothing and would make profits up for 4.37%%, but
in the eyes of the workers those 2%% were stress terror, broken
marriage and maybe losing an arm. It's the law of the homo economicus.
If something makes your situation better, and you can get away with
it homo economus will do it. It doesn't matter who else will suffer.

bobi
>
>>> You have thousand that barely get by but a popular few make millions.
>
>> This is no reason to steal knowledge workers' work product.
>
> Who steals?
>
> --
> __Pascal Bourguignon__                    http://www.informatimago.com/
>
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> or inconveniences that may result.
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