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Author: Slobodan BlazeskiSlobodan Blazeski Date: Sep 10, 2008 03:10
Raffael Cavallaro wrote:
> On 2008-09-09 07:37:16 -0400, Slobodan Blazeski
> gmail.com> said:
>>> So here's my humble opinion. Get use to free riders,
>
> I'm used to freeloaders (I think this is the slang term you're looking
> for here). I just want them to stop passing off their rationalizations
> for their freeloading as if it were some sort of logical corollary of
> Shannon's information theory.
I make some desktop software, how much should I invest in copy
protection. If it's popular thieves are going to crack it anyway, so
probably adding some online registration is enough to remind honest
people to pay me something for my effort. Thieves won't do it anyway.
If multibillion companies can't protect their software from piracy,
small fish like me can't do a shit about.Why?
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Date: Sep 10, 2008 09:27
In comp.lang.lisp Raffael Cavallaro il-vous-plait-mac.com> wrote:
>> So here's my humble opinion. Get use to free riders,
> I'm used to freeloaders (I think this is the slang term you're looking
> for here). I just want them to stop passing off their rationalizations
> for their freeloading as if it were some sort of logical corollary of
> Shannon's information theory.
It seems strange that certain data of type (vector (unsigned-byte 8))
are illegal to possess. Worse yet, ASH and LOGIOR it together, then it
makes an illegal number.
--
The great peril of our existence lies in the fact that our diet consists
entirely of souls. -- Inuit saying
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Author: AliAli Date: Sep 10, 2008 12:15
On Sep 10, 5:27 pm, Stanisław Halik
wrote:
> It seems strange that certain data of type (vector (unsigned-byte 8))
> are illegal to possess.
I don't see that as strange. If someone has copyright ownership over a
certain arrangement of bits, then surely its no different from other
forms of ownership.
Of course it would be silly if someone owned the rights to a very
small arrangement of bits, which other people might naturally want to
use in their own arrangements, but for storing any reasonable amount
of code, the arrangement of bits will be large enough that it can be
assumed unique.
At certain times there really isn't any substitute for common sense in
law. If something is clearly a manifestation of copyright material,
then it's copyrighted, regardless of its representation.
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Author: Matthias BlumeMatthias Blume Date: Sep 11, 2008 08:29
Stanisław Halik writes:
> It seems strange that certain data of type (vector (unsigned-byte 8))
> are illegal to possess.
Probably not any stranger than that certain arrangements of atoms or
molecules are illegal to possess...
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Author: Kaz KylhekuKaz Kylheku Date: Sep 11, 2008 09:47
On 2008-09-10, Stanis?aw Halik wrote:
> In comp.lang.lisp Raffael Cavallaro il-vous-plait-mac.com> wrote:
>>>> So here's my humble opinion. Get use to free riders,
>> I'm used to freeloaders (I think this is the slang term you're looking
>> for here). I just want them to stop passing off their rationalizations
>> for their freeloading as if it were some sort of logical corollary of
>> Shannon's information theory.
>
> It seems strange that certain data of type (vector (unsigned-byte 8))
> are illegal to possess.
Wonderful; when are you available for free labor?
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Author: George NeunerGeorge Neuner Date: Sep 11, 2008 10:24
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:27:30 +0000 (UTC), Stanis?aw Halik
wrote:
>In comp.lang.lisp Raffael Cavallaro il-vous-plait-mac.com> wrote:
>>>> So here's my humble opinion. Get use to free riders,
>> I'm used to freeloaders (I think this is the slang term you're looking
>> for here). I just want them to stop passing off their rationalizations
>> for their freeloading as if it were some sort of logical corollary of
>> Shannon's information theory.
>
>It seems strange that certain data of type (vector (unsigned-byte 8))
>are illegal to possess. Worse yet, ASH and LOGIOR it together, then it
>makes an illegal number.
Technically "possession" is not illegal. It is illegal to copy
without license, to seek an unlawful copy, and to profit from an
unlawful copy. But should you simply find an unlawful copy or one be
gifted to you without solicitation, then you've done nothing wrong.
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Author: gavinogavino Date: Sep 11, 2008 18:49
On Sep 6, 7:36 am, "John Thingstad" wrote:
> På Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:11:55 +0200, skrev Raffael Cavallaro
> il-vous-plait-mac.com>:
>
>
>>> On 2008-09-06 07:09:19 -0400, "John Thingstad" said:
>
>>> But making a copy of it one it is recorded doesn't and Jobs is not
>>> involved in the making of the music merely the distribution.
>
>> Making a copy of any software would take as little effort. By this
>> argument programmers shouldn't get paid either; nor actors, nor writers,
>> nor graphic artists, nor biochemists developing new drugs, etc., etc.
>
>> Just in case it's not completely obvious at this point, in a society
>> with knowledge workers, we don't count the value of their work as the
>> cost of merely copying it.
>
>> Internet culture has legitimized theft as long as the victims are ...
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Author: gavinogavino Date: Sep 11, 2008 19:15
> On 2008-09-06 17:14:25 -0400, "John Thingstad" said:
>
>> To provide a more relaistic pricing of services.
>
> Taking something that belongs to someone else is not "a more realistic
> pricing of services," it is what we call stealing.
well whos takign anything?
If I buy an album its MINE
if I then giev to friend so be it
thats not stealing :)
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Date: Sep 12, 2008 09:52
In comp.lang.lisp Kaz Kylheku gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> So here's my humble opinion. Get use to free riders,
>>> I'm used to freeloaders (I think this is the slang term you're looking
>>> for here). I just want them to stop passing off their rationalizations
>>> for their freeloading as if it were some sort of logical corollary of
>>> Shannon's information theory.
>> It seems strange that certain data of type (vector (unsigned-byte 8))
>> are illegal to possess.
> Wonderful; when are you available for free labor?
You mean my BSD-licensed software? Infringing on that would tantamount
to plagiarism. Anything else follows the license agreement.
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The great peril of our existence lies in the fact that our diet consists
entirely of souls. -- Inuit saying
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