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Author: glen herrmannsfeldt
Date: May 1, 2008 14:39

(not posted)
> I'm further confused by how this relates to or
> is an "existing case" of:
>> It would be nice, though, if there were some non-standard
>> ENCODING values that those didn't conflict with future
>> standard values.
> I don't even see what you might be alluding to here
> in terms of the relationship of these two subjects.

I am not so sure about it, but I was suspecting that
different implementations used RECL in different ways
before it was standardized. If it was standardized
first, there should not be this ambiguity.

I had once thought that unformatted files were in
terms of what now seems to be called
"numeric storage unit". I was, then, surprised to
find them in terms of bytes.

-- glen
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Re: maine@summertriangle.net         


Author: nospam
Date: May 1, 2008 14:53

glen herrmannsfeldt ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
> I had once thought that unformatted files were in
> terms of what now seems to be called
> "numeric storage unit". I was, then, surprised to
> find them in terms of bytes.

They were always in "processor-dependent units". The processor-dependent
unit got a name (file storage unit) in f2003, along with a nonbinding
recommendation, but no change of substance.

The "processor-dependent units" were indeed processor dependent, as one
might guess. If you ever thought otherwise, I'm afraid that can't be
traced to any wording in the standard. I do realize that many people had
such a confusion, but that doesn't have much to do with the standard,
which gave not even a hint that the units in question would have
anything to do with either numeric storage units or bytes.

And I still don't see how this relates to the question about encoding,
except insomuch as both are things people might be confused about, in
which case they are both members of a large set.
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Author: Ron Ford
Date: May 1, 2008 20:27

"Richard Maine" wrote in message
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> glen herrmannsfeldt ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
>
>> I had once thought that unformatted files were in
>> terms of what now seems to be called
>> "numeric storage unit". I was, then, surprised to
>> find them in terms of bytes.
>
> They were always in "processor-dependent units". The processor-dependent
> unit got a name (file storage unit) in f2003, along with a nonbinding
> recommendation, but no change of substance.
>
> The "processor-dependent units" were indeed processor dependent, as one
> might guess. If you ever thought otherwise, I'm afraid that can't be
> traced to any wording in the standard. I do realize that many people had
> such a confusion, but that doesn't have much to do with the standard,
> which gave not even a hint that the units in question would have
> anything to do with either numeric storage units or bytes.
> ...
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