> Hello !
>
> Before I start explaining my problems to, a possibly, unsuspecting
> audience ;-), I was wondering, is there anyone here who tried and
> succeded in connecting fortran and python, in a back in
> fortran/frontend (gui) in python, sort a way.
>
> I'm forced to learn python because of some other needs, and i noticed
> that every once in a while, whenever someone mentiones python's
> ability to work well with other languages, fortran comes into view.
> So I was wondering, is the above mentioned, possible, or even more
> important, is it worth the trouble to try to do something like that
> with that combination ?

> Hello !
>
> Before I start explaining my problems to, a possibly, unsuspecting
> audience ;-), I was wondering, is there anyone here who tried and
> succeded in connecting fortran and python, in a back in
> fortran/frontend (gui) in python, sort a way.
>
> I'm forced to learn python because of some other needs, and i noticed
> that every once in a while, whenever someone mentiones python's
> ability to work well with other languages, fortran comes into view.
> So I was wondering, is the above mentioned, possible, or even more
> important, is it worth the trouble to try to do something like that
> with that combination ?
>
>
> Charlie

>Charlie,

>
>I think you'll find that more fortran fellas are using ruby as a front end.
>The idea is fundamentally similar.
>
>I'd be curious to see a python caller get information from one of fortran's
>intrinsics. Python seems to come in the same package that ubuntu does.

> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:02:35 -0600, Ron Ford
> wrote:
>

>> Charlie,

>
> Hello Ron, thanks for answering.

>> I think you'll find that more fortran fellas are using ruby as a front end.
>> The idea is fundamentally similar.
>>
>> I'd be curious to see a python caller get information from one of fortran's
>> intrinsics. Python seems to come in the same package that ubuntu does.

>
> I did notice that ruby and python always come together in a
> conversation, yes. However, I got the feeling that more people are
> using python, for some reason (google, old c.l.f. archives ...)
> Could you give some examples of possible troublesome areas in
> connecting python to fortran, or some distinct advantages of ruby ?

>> I don't have an option here of switching to ruby for this, but I would
>> still like to know a little more about ruby as well. They seem like
>> very similar languages to each other, btw. For now all I could notice
>> is that I like python's syntax more :-) (no brackets, never could get
>> used to brackets :-)

>
> Functionally, I think they [Python and Ruby] are the same dog, different leg. You just have to look at all
> the various apps that have been written in both to see that whatever it is you want to do
> you can do in either of them.

> Charles Doust wrote:

>> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:02:35 -0600, Ron Ford
>> wrote:

>

>>> Charlie,

>

>> Hello Ron, thanks for answering.

>>> I think you'll find that more fortran fellas are using ruby as a front end.
>>> The idea is fundamentally similar.

>

>>> I'd be curious to see a python caller get information from one of fortran's
>>> intrinsics. Python seems to come in the same package that ubuntu does.

>

>> I did notice that ruby and python always come together in a
>> conversation, yes. However, I got the feeling that more people are
>> using python, for some reason (google, old c.l.f. archives ...)
>> Could you give some examples of possible troublesome areas in
>> connecting python to fortran, or some distinct advantages of ruby ?

> ...

>
>I am also looking to properly learn either Python or Ruby.
>Syntactically I like Ruby but the scientific community seems to be
>bending towards Python with projects like f2py, Numpy/Scipy/Sage,
>Matplotlib/Mayavi/Paraview, Cubit etc. Moreover python bindings are
>also being made available for many useful libraries such as MPI, Petsc
>and so on.
>
>Though unlike Fortran, whenever I try to write python I just dont feel
>in control and everything seems pretty loose. I am also not sure if I
>should be learning python specially when Fortran compilers supporting
>features of 2003 standard are being made available.

> Though unlike Fortran, whenever I try to write python I just dont feel
> in control and everything seems pretty loose. \

>I am also not sure if I
> should be learning python specially when Fortran compilers supporting
> features of 2003 standard are being made available.

>> Though unlike Fortran, whenever I try to write python I just dont feel
>> in control and everything seems pretty loose. \

>
> What kind of control do you mean comparing Fortran with Python?
>

>>I am also not sure if I
>> should be learning python specially when Fortran compilers supporting
>> features of 2003 standard are being made available.

>
> It is hard to see what particular features of F2003 give it advantage
> over Python. I am not arguing that Python is "better", but the reasons
> people might want to use one instead of another have nothing to do
> with what new F2003 brings.
> Perhaps, you should first be certain about what your goals are and
> then decide on what would be the most suitable tool to achieve them.
> Cheers,
> Victor.