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Re: Spreading the word         


Author: Robert Miller
Date: Sep 11, 2008 18:34

An article on Forth by Stephen Pelc appeared today on Dr. Dobbs website.
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Re: Spreading the word         


Author: mentifex
Date: Sep 12, 2008 13:43

On Sep 11, 6:34 pm, "Robert Miller" compmore.net> wrote:
> An article on Forth by Stephen Pelc appeared today on Dr. Dobbs website.

The article on "Modern Forth" by Mr. Stephen Pelc on-line at
http://ddj.com/embedded/210600604 was quite fascinating
to read (over three pages), although three typographical
errors made it a little painful. (Don't they proofread?)

Some of the material seemed like boilerplate --
perhaps brought in from other writings.

On the whole, the article was so excellent that I
would like to link to it from the #debug (Trouble-
shooting) sections of the MindForth webpages,
since Mr. Pelc goes into detail about debugging.

I would like to see artificial intelligence (AI)
in Forth become a burgeoning industry for a while,
until some other programming language "steals the
ball" from us Forthers and supplants Forth as
the language of choice for AI.

Bye for now,
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Re: Spreading the word         


Author: roger.levy
Date: Sep 18, 2008 07:19

On Sep 11, 9:34 pm, "Robert Miller" compmore.net> wrote:
> An article on Forth by Stephen Pelc appeared today on Dr. Dobbs website.

Great article!
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Re: Spreading the word         


Author: Jean-François Michaud
Date: Sep 19, 2008 09:12

On Sep 18, 7:19 am, "roger.l...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sep 11, 9:34 pm, "Robert Miller" compmore.net> wrote:
>
>> An article on Forth by Stephen Pelc appeared today on Dr. Dobbs website.
>
> Great article!

I thought the article was interesting but it seemed that the flow was
a bit off-kilter in that the second and third pages transition into
seemingly unrelated scopes (coding practices and debugging in general
on the second page when the heading seems to direct us to think in
terms of FORTH's performance and interactivity; we sink into network
chat and the usefulness of remote debugging and the related benefits
of interactivity when we seem to be directed, from what the heading
says, into a talk about documenting FORTH code as you go). It seems to
me that the "Modern Forth" context gets blurred out throughout the
articles while insufficiently explained projects, and how they relate
to the master topic of the section, are sprinkled throughout the
articles.
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Re: Spreading the word         


Author: mentifex
Date: Sep 19, 2008 13:54

On Sep 19, 9:12 am, Jean-François Michaud comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sep 18, 7:19 am, "roger.l...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 11, 9:34 pm, "Robert Miller" compmore.net> wrote:
>
>>> An article on Forth by Stephen Pelc appeared today on Dr. Dobbs website.
>
>> Great article!
>
> I thought the article was interesting but it seemed that the flow was
> a bit off-kilter [...]
> Jean-Francois Michaud

The article at http://www.ddj.com/embedded/210600604 was
interesting and valuable enough for me to link to it from
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/fp080917.html --
the MindForth Programming Journal for 17.SEP.2008.
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Re: Spreading the word         


Author: John Passaniti
Date: Sep 19, 2008 15:27

mentifex@myuw.net wrote:
> http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/exhibit.html
> is guidelines for putting MindForth on display
> as artificial intelligence for science museums.

I work pretty near the local science museum here in Rochester, New York.
I could talk to them about putting MindForth on display, but being a
science museum, I'm pretty sure they are looking to host /science/
exhibits. They don't typically reserve space for tired memes used to
try to bootstrap others into doing actual AI.

Still, I think it would be cool. I can imagine the children visiting
for school field trips, walking up to a terminal and typing random input
and watching the equally random output from MindForth. I'm sure they'll
be impressed.
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Re: Spreading the word         


Author: The Beez'
Date: Sep 19, 2008 16:29

On 20 sep, 00:27, John Passaniti JapanIsShinto.com> wrote:
> Which brings up another idea. Maybe science museums aren't the best
> place for a display of MindForth. Maybe you should focus instead on
> local poetry slams at the trendier coffee shops. MindForth fits in well
> with a kind of beat-era aesthetic-- kind of like an electronic version
> of William S. Burroughs's cut-up techniques. Have a screen with
> MindForth's randomness being displayed while a sax player and a guy on
> bongos explore jazz textures.
Personally, I think it would be more interesting to integrate
MindForth with the code for the vending machines you tend to program.
It might give rise to a whole new debate about Dennett's
intentionality issue.

http://cogprints.org/431/0/evolerr.htm

Hans Bezemer
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Re: Spreading the word         


Author: bleh
Date: Sep 20, 2008 09:29

mentifex@myuw.net wrote:
> http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/exhibit.html
> is guidelines for putting MindForth on display
> as artificial intelligence for science museums.

Step 1: Write poster about AI winter
Step 2: Cite mentifex and MindForth
Step 3: Profit

LOLZ.
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Re: Spreading the word         


Author: mentifex
Date: Sep 20, 2008 14:21

On Sep 19, 3:27 pm, John Passaniti JapanIsShinto.com> wrote:
> [...] Maybe you should focus instead on local
> poetry slams at the trendier coffee shops. [...]
From the coffee shop journal of Mentifex on 20.SEP.2008:

Lying in bed this morning I had a remarkable insight,
a eureka flash of inspiration. It suddenly occurred
to me that with my new kbSearch module that can
answer "YES" to questions, after all these years I
may finally be able to achieve machine reasoning.

On the Internet I began to look again at some of the
pertinent Wikipedia pages. As usual, I would like to
attempt some simple demonstration of the achievement
of machine reasoning. Maybe I will try to create
an "inference engine."
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