Robert Miller wrote:
> "Stephen Pelc"
mpeforth.com> wrote in message ...
> I'm really not too sure what your point is here. I don't believe I have
> made any claims, let alone having claimed too much. Simply put, Forth fits
> nicely with the way I like to work - an iterative try it and see approach.
> Looking at the questions asked on the MSP430 Users group, I get the sense
> that a lot of the questions asked there would quickly yield to such a try it
> and see approach. Forth, or at least SwiftX, allows that. Read the manual,
> write the registers, see what happens, write the function once you've
> figured out what to do. As a test engineer, I've traversed the code-compile
> & link - download - debug loop with C far too many times - though usually in
> a windows based environment. Lingua franca or not, in my opinion, C is a
> lousy language when you need to get close to the hardware - particularly
> with new designs that may not work quite as advertised or might not be well
> documented.
I hope you say so in the group. As I said in my other post, real user
experiences carry a lot more weight than anything Stephen or I could
possibly say. The very description in your paragraph above is what they
need to see.
If everyone here who is successfully using some (any) version of Forth
spoke up in whatever forums their colleagues frequent, we'd see the use
of Forth growing significantly.
>> Also make sure that you have numbers and theory to back up
>> your assertions.
>>
>
> I'm afraid you've really lost me here. I have no idea what numbers, theory,
> and assertions you are referring to.
I believe he means, "It took only x days to do this in Forth, which
always took me y weeks in C" or "this function only takes n bytes in
Forth, whereas the C version took m bytes". Much more effective than
just "Forth is easier to use" and "Forth makes smaller programs".
Cheers,
Elizabeth
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