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Author: Jason DamischJason Damisch Date: Jul 26, 2007 16:16
Well well,
I sold my first Forth program a few days ago. Price $180. I thought
that it was worth atleast $500 to my employer. I'm thinking that
Microsoft or some C programmer would have charged $2000. Net result.
I loose my job. I'm so angry now that I am seriously considering
joining the IWW, (Industrial Workers of the World). That would be
quite a change from my time with the Libertarian Party. But the LP
does not represent me, so there.
It wasn't the most special of programs, or the greatest. It works on
the command line of Forth and does not use the GUI. All it does is to
take a CSV file from Turbolister and then strip the descriptions out
of the HTML, then it strips the rest of the info out and then slams it
into collumns for another CSV file that gets fed to a shopping cart
system. Not such a bad thing to have when you are selling upward of
4000 products and would eventually like to be able to deal with 10,000
products.
bummer.
Oh well, everyone told me that I would never make a single dime with
Forth. LOL
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Author: David SmithDavid Smith Date: Jul 26, 2007 19:08
On Jul 26, 4:16 pm, Jason Damisch yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well well,
>
> I sold my first Forth program a few days ago. Price $180. I thought
> that it was worth atleast $500 to my employer. I'm thinking that
> Microsoft or some C programmer would have charged $2000. Net result.
> I loose my job. I'm so angry now that I am seriously considering
> joining the IWW, (Industrial Workers of the World). That would be
> quite a change from my time with the Libertarian Party. But the LP
> does not represent me, so there.
>
> It wasn't the most special of programs, or the greatest. It works on
> the command line of Forth and does not use the GUI. All it does is to
> take a CSV file from Turbolister and then strip the descriptions out
> of the HTML, then it strips the rest of the info out and then slams it
> into collumns for another CSV file that gets fed to a shopping cart
> system. Not such a bad thing to have when you are selling upward of
> 4000 products and would eventually like to be able to deal with 10,000
> products.
> ...
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Author: Jason DamischJason Damisch Date: Jul 26, 2007 20:13
> Congrats. What exactly is the market model for selling individual
> programs like that? Were you a contractor? Or did you write it in
> your spare time, and your company bought it from you right before they
> fired you?
I wrote it in my spare time and he bought it right before he fired me,
in a nutshell but there are more details than that.
> And don't give up on capitalism. :)
Well it hasn't made me happy, or done anything for my soul.
> And quit watching so much Star Trek. ;-)
LOL
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Author: Ged ByrneGed Byrne Date: Jul 27, 2007 01:07
On Jul 27, 4:13 am, Jason Damisch yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> And don't give up on capitalism. :)
>
> Well it hasn't made me happy, or done anything for my soul.
>
[...]
Forget capitalism, now you have moved into consultism.
Your code will sit there, happily ploughing through the piles of CSV.
The number goes up and its processing 10,000 products a day.
Then something changes and it will break. There losing time and time
is money, this is when they discover the true value of your work.
They need somebody to fix the code. There aren't a great number of
Forth programmers available, so they'll have to come to you for a fix.
Thats when you get to charge $180 dollars per hour. Possibly more.
Just make sure you come in closer that the $2000 they'll have to pay
somebody else to rewrite from scratch :)
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Author: rickmanrickman Date: Jul 29, 2007 09:57
On Jul 26, 11:13 pm, Jason Damisch yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Congrats. What exactly is the market model for selling individual
>> programs like that? Were you a contractor? Or did you write it in
>> your spare time, and your company bought it from you right before they
>> fired you?
>
> I wrote it in my spare time and he bought it right before he fired me,
> in a nutshell but there are more details than that.
Yes, the devil is in the details...
>> And don't give up on capitalism. :)
>
> Well it hasn't made me happy, or done anything for my soul.
Not to sound like a jerk, but I was not aware that capitalism was ever
claimed to be good for the soul or to make you happy. I thought it
was just a way to put food on the table and provide the means of
pursuing happiness... whether you achieve happiness depends on how you
go about the pursuit and what your goals are.
So what are (were) your goals in pursuing happiness? Maybe you had
the wrong goals to be good for your soul?
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Author: Jason DamischJason Damisch Date: Jul 29, 2007 10:09
On Jul 29, 9:57 am, rickman gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 26, 11:13 pm, Jason Damisch yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Congrats. What exactly is the market model for selling individual
>>> programs like that? Were you a contractor? Or did you write it in
>>> your spare time, and your company bought it from you right before they
>>> fired you?
>
>> I wrote it in my spare time and he bought it right before he fired me,
>> in a nutshell but there are more details than that.
>
> Yes, the devil is in the details...
>
>>> And don't give up on capitalism. :)
>
>> Well it hasn't made me happy, or done anything for my soul.
>
> Not to sound like a jerk, but I was not aware that capitalism was ever
> claimed to be good for the soul or to make you happy. I thought it
> was just a way to put food on the table and provide the means of ...
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Author: Stephen PelcStephen Pelc Date: Jul 29, 2007 11:48
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:08:10 -0700, David Smith
gmail.com> wrote:
>And don't give up on capitalism. :)
Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for
the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all.
(John Maynard Keynes)
Stephen
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Author: Jerry AvinsJerry Avins Date: Jul 29, 2007 12:10
Stephen Pelc wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:08:10 -0700, David Smith
> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And don't give up on capitalism. :)
>
> Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for
> the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all.
> (John Maynard Keynes)
Now there's a quote fit for a sig!
Jerry
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Author: rickmanrickman Date: Jul 29, 2007 20:23
On Jul 29, 1:09 pm, Jason Damisch yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 29, 9:57 am, rickman gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jul 26, 11:13 pm, Jason Damisch yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Congrats. What exactly is the market model for selling individual
>>>> programs like that? Were you a contractor? Or did you write it in
>>>> your spare time, and your company bought it from you right before they
>>>> fired you?
>
>>> I wrote it in my spare time and he bought it right before he fired me,
>>> in a nutshell but there are more details than that.
>
>> Yes, the devil is in the details...
>
>>>> And don't give up on capitalism. :)
>
>>> Well it hasn't made me happy, or done anything for my soul. ...
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