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Author: gavinogavino Date: Jul 15, 2008 01:37
heh
anyone using it instead of linux?
does it have tcp/ip?
remind me!
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Author: Larry WebberLarry Webber Date: Jul 15, 2008 17:40
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:37:43 -0700, gavino wrote:
> heh
>
> anyone using it instead of linux?
> does it have tcp/ip?
> remind me!
Gavino,
I am not using it and honestly was not aware of its existence. I just
googled on "forthos" and found the home page for this site. http://
www.forthos.org/
There is a question/answer section but it appears activity on that ended
in 2005. I too am curious as to whether anyone is using this. I quickly
downloaded the ISO and tried to install this under Linux running VMWare
abd got it to "boot" there. I looked on the aforementioned home page for
documentation but failed to find much.
Good luck.
Larry
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Author: vandysvandys Date: Jul 15, 2008 18:35
Larry Webber gmail.com> wrote:>> anyone using it instead of linux?
>> does it have tcp/ip?
>> remind me!
> I am not using it and honestly was not aware of its existence. I just
> googled on "forthos" and found the home page for this site. http://
> www.forthos.org/
Hi,
A friend wrote a IP plus TCP and UDP for it, along with some basic PCI
support and a driver for some breed of ethernet card (I don't remember
offhand which model it was). He even married it with the TTY support to
support telnet into the system.
> There is a question/answer section but it appears activity on that ended
> in 2005. I too am curious as to whether anyone is using this. I quickly
> downloaded the ISO and tried to install this under Linux running VMWare
> abd got it to "boot" there. I looked on the aforementioned home page for
> documentation but failed to find much.
If you get interested enough, you can do a hard disk install and then
there's the source code.
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Author: spamspam Date: Jul 15, 2008 18:41
On Tue, 16 Jul 2008, vandys@ vsta.org wrote:
> Larry Webber gmail.com> wrote:>>> anyone using it instead of linux?
>>> does it have tcp/ip?
>>> remind me!
>> I am not using it and honestly was not aware of its existence. I just
>> googled...
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Author: vandysvandys Date: Jul 15, 2008 18:44
> Apparently the author is not actively working on ForthOS any longer, and
> has some sort of home brewed anti-spam technique which essentially means
> he has to invite you to email him ... (sigh).
No, you just haven't looked for the right way to get in touch.
(Googling with some reasonable search terms will lead you there.)
> Simply extracting the source code, along with the boot code would be a
> very useful example of booting on native intel iron ... I believe it uses
> Grub as a boot manager ...
Correct, it's multiboot compliant.
> Apparently it uses a Forth BLOCK type file system, and has a file type
> naming system implementation layered on top, and the source is on the disk
> somewhere ... It certainly is a cool native forth for Intel, but remains
> largely a black box, which needs a bit of detailed exploration
> (archeology?) ...
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Author: vandysvandys Date: Jul 15, 2008 18:51
> Hey, I'll byte! How does one install upon a hard drive?
> Is it possible
> to use QEMU to create a disk image, and install onto that? Either way,
> with a couple of pointers, I'd be happy to unwrap, and then put the source
> in a file on the Web somewhere ... If only to study the bootstrap stuff
> ... though a forth based IP stack might be useful, if it is licensed under
> an open license ... of course.
I've never run it under an emulator; my only experience is with actual
PC hardware.
> It would be tragic to let such a nice native Forth die of loneliness ...
Thanks! For detailed help, get in touch with me via my web site (I would've
sent you a direct note, but I didn't spot your E-mail address in your
message). I doubt it'll ever be a major project for me again, but it
has a lot of fun stuff in it and I'd be happy to help others play with
it.
Andy Valencia
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Author: spamspam Date: Jul 16, 2008 16:27
On Tue, 16 Jul 2008, vandys@ vsta.org wrote:
> Date: 16 Jul 2008 01:51:27 GMT
> From: vandys@ vsta.org
> Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
> Subject: Re: I booted into forthos and was like, what now?
>
> spam@ controlq.com wrote: >> Hey, I'll byte! How does one install upon a hard drive?
Thanks for the reply, Andy. My direct email is later in this posting, but
I'm making some headway ...
I've created a qemu flat disk image, and using mdconfig on FreeBSD, I've
partitioned it with a 158 partition ID, copied the ForthOS stage 1 and 2,
and the Src10000 file onto it in the specific offsets recommended. I've
also done the first part of installing Grub on the boot sections of the
drive, but I've not added the Grub scripts to test it yet.
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Author: vandysvandys Date: Jul 16, 2008 17:12
> If anyone is interested, drop me a line at rob at controlq dot com, and
> I'll provide either instructions, or the ability to download a qemu disk
> image of ForthOS, as the case may be ... Oh, it may take a day or two, I'm
> a bit busy just now ...
>
> Oh, and if Andy will keep monitoring this newsgroup, that would be helpful
> to us ForthOS newbies ...
Happy to help. And also, I *do* own forthos.com and would be happy to host
any bits you come up with to help with ForthOS. I could also re-activate
the NNTP server if folks felt it was getting too noisy on comp.lang.forth.
Andy Valencia
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