Hi all,

I am interested in having a look at Forth but haven't been able to
find a Forth implementation that builds on an Intel Mac running
Leopard. I saw this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.forth/browse_frm/thread/6e4f1008a11545b...#

However, it is focused on PPC Macs. I tried building both the CVS and
the version 0.6.2 tar ball versions of GForth without success. I
encountered a number of build errors; however, even if I was able to
get around those build errors, it appears that I need a previous
binary GForth on my machine in order to bootstrap the final portion of
the build.

So, a number of questions:

1. Has anyone been able to get GForth built on an Intel Mac running
Leopard? If so, could you please list what work-arounds you had to do
to get it to build.
2. Is there a different Forth that would be...

On Apr 4, 12:19 pm, billc...@gmail.com wrote:

I just had a go.

On the default penryn 10.5.2 I was playing around with (xcode 3.0) I
could not build ffcall - on the make it segmented faulted on test2.

I proceeded to try and build 0.6.9 out of the source tarball in any
case and it looked for ffi.h which was apparently missing and bombed
the make.

Now I admit I only had 30 mins to try it out - the next time I shall
do more digging.

By the way, fink support for leopard has apparently been discontinued
- but like yourself I was not particularly enamoured by it anyways.

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 18:19:47 -0700 (PDT), billclem@gmail.com wrote:

One of these days, we'll get round to making a Mac version of
VFX Forth. In the mean time, we know that it works on BSD using
the Linux emulation layer. If you can install the FreeBSD Linux
emulation on a Mac, you will open the door to running quite a
range of Forth systems. See:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/linuxemu-lbc-install.html

Stephen

On Apr 3, 6:19 pm, billc...@gmail.com wrote:

Agreed that the gforth build process is rather arcane.

The quickest way to get get this support is to donate an Intel Mac
Mini to Berndt (bigForth and gforth). Anton and Berndt have both said
they just need availablity to a Mac to get gforth and bigForth ported.

Email them your pledge. They could get one when it reaches EURO 600. I'll
pledge EURO 50 for starters.

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<492ff916-66e0-4000-b434-d064fc891530@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
billclem@gmail.com wrote:

On Apr 4, 2:44 pm, Roelf Toxopeus invalid.macmail.com>
wrote:

Roelf Toxopeus wrote:

I can also assure that both Carbon MacForth and PowerMops run
just fine on an InteliMac under Leopard. There is nothing to
"build". Just download and go. I recommend both Forths.

Hi all,

Thanks for the replies. To summarize, here are the options that were
suggested:

1. Downgrade to 10.4 (although the options on 10.4 aren't very much
better)
2. Use a Linux or BSD Forth implementation running in a VM under
Leopard
3. Contribute financially to a port of Gforth to Leopard
4. Run the commercial MacForth implementation under Rosetta on Leopard
5. Run the open source PowerMops Forth implementation under Rosetta on
Leopard

My decision is based on a number of factors:

A. I'm not willing to downgrade to 10.4, so that rules out #1.
B. Although Gforth sounds like a nice implementation, I am not
interested in financially supporting an open source Forth project
until I know...

In article <492ff916-66e0-4000-b434-d064fc891530@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 5, 2:44 am, Ian Osgood quirkster.com> wrote:
... (re: OSX intel gforth)...

Mmmm... Bernd, Anton et al check out wwwOSX86project.org. Ok I'll
admit it's somewhat err... grey but if you buy a copy of leopard Apple
does get its fair share. One could argue it's fair dinkum if you do
give them their dues and run it on non-apple hardware... but... some
may say otherwise.

I see a lot of people maligning Leopard at the moment - fink guys
won't support it and they even recommend downgrading to 10.4 on their
website so I would suggest Tiger if you're buying but at the moment it
(legal copies) can't be had for love or money in the antipodes.