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Re: Rusty's message to C++ programmers (C or C++)         


Author: cr88192
Date: May 5, 2008 23:06

"Chris Thomasson" comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Raz" gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:54:37 GMT, Erik Wikstr
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Re: Rusty's message to C++ programmers (C or C++)         


Author: Mike Schilling
Date: May 5, 2008 23:37

Razi wrote:
> On Mon, 5 May 2008 20:51:12 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
> hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As suggested in your post's headers, I'm going to forward this to
>> abuse@rr.com . I encourage the rest of you to join me.
>
> And now I am using aioe.org .. their email is probably,
> abuse@aioe.org , in case you need help.
>
> I can continue with next server in the next post if you want me to,
> for at least two dozen servers continuously. After that, there is
> all
> too reliable google.

Why do you need to switch servers so often, if you're not a spammer?
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Re: Rusty's message to C++ programmers (C or C++)         


Author: Chris Thomasson
Date: May 6, 2008 00:03

"cr88192" NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Chris Thomasson" comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> "Raz" gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:715v141f46a5eg638h45f6tu2pem1hohh1@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:54:37 GMT, Erik Wikströ
>>>
>>>>Obviously his knowledge of C++ is not as good as it should be.
>>>
>>> As I said, I will find the link again. His knowledge of C++ is just
>>> fine.
>>>
>>> http://www.builderau.com.au/video/soa/Rusty-s-message-to-C-programmers/0,2000064338...
>>>
>>> http://www.builderau.com.au/video/soa/Why-C-remains-relevant/0,2000064338,22432921p...
>>>
>>> So here is an expert of who believes that you don't need C++ to ...
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Re: Rusty's message to C++ programmers (C or C++)         


Author: Chris Thomasson
Date: May 6, 2008 00:05

"Chris Thomasson" comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Mike Schilling" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Razii wrote:
>>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 20:19:18 -0400, CBFalconer yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you realize that you are posting to comp.lang.c, and that your
>>>> posts are off-topic there? Simply delete c.l.c from the
>>>> distribution.
>>>
>>> From now on, all my posts would bee cross posted to comp.lang.c. What
>>> are you going to do about it?
>>
>> As suggested in your post's headers, I'm going to forward this to
>> abuse@rr.com . I encourage the rest of you to join me.
>
> What I was trying to tell Razii all along is that one can spend about
> 10-15 minutes creating a _very_ crude general purpose memory allocator in ...
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Re: Rusty's message to C++ programmers (C or C++)         


Author: Ian Collins
Date: May 6, 2008 00:13

Chris Thomasson wrote:
> "cr88192" NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:51475$481ff7ff$ca83b482$3400@saipan.com...
>>
>> "Chris Thomasson" comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:_eadnWL1xbc8EILVnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> "Raz" gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:715v141f46a5eg638h45f6tu2pem1hohh1@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:54:37 GMT, Erik Wikströ
>>>>
>>>>> Obviously his knowledge of C++ is not as good as it should be.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, I will find the link again. His knowledge of C++ is just
>>>> fine.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.builderau.com.au/video/soa/Rusty-s-message-to-C-programmers/0,2000064338...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.builderau.com.au/video/soa/Why-C-remains-relevant/0,2000064338,22432921p... ...
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Re: Rusty's message to C++ programmers (C or C++)         


Author: Razii
Date: May 6, 2008 00:35

On Mon, 5 May 2008 23:37:03 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
hotmail.com> wrote:
>Why do you need to switch servers so often, if you're not a spammer?

I switched servers to make a point. There are thousands of usenet
servers. Some free and many commercial specialized servers. Many of
them will never cancel an account because of the kind of posts I am
postings. Do you know how many zillion of pirated movies, songs, and
software is posted to the usenet? If these commercial servers don't
cancel accounts because their customers are breaking the law, why do
you think they will cancel accounts because I am posting benchmarks to
f*cking usenet newsgroups?

These groups are filled with porn. Don't you find it strange that
someone like CBFalconer wades through all the spam, finds my thread,
and starts lecturing and/or insulting me? He could have just moved on
to the next thread, as he did by ignoring zillion of spam. He could
have just filtered the thread and added me to ignore list. But no, he
had to lecture and then post one-liner "Plonk." Why he did that?
Because he is an abusive troll.
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Re: Rusty's message to C++ programmers (C or C++)         


Author: Keith Thompson
Date: May 6, 2008 00:55

Razii gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, 5 May 2008 23:37:03 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
> hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Why do you need to switch servers so often, if you're not a spammer?
>
> I switched servers to make a point.
[snip]

Ok, you've made your point. You can post anything you like to
unmoderated newsgroups, and nobody can stop you.

We already knew that.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Nokia
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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Re: Rusty's message to C++ programmers (C or C++)         


Author: santosh
Date: May 6, 2008 01:55

Keith Thompson wrote:
> Razii gmail.com> writes:
>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 23:37:03 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
>> hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Why do you need to switch servers so often, if you're not a spammer?
>>
>> I switched servers to make a point.
> [snip]
>
> Ok, you've made your point. You can post anything you like to
> unmoderated newsgroups, and nobody can stop you.
>
> We already knew that.

Well, the news servers *can* stop him. A tiny little filter is all that
it takes, to be updated whenever he switches identity. But frankly,
end-user killfilling is better for small-time annoyances like him.
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Re: Rusty's message to C++ programmers (C or C++)         


Author: dizzy
Date: May 6, 2008 02:38

cr88192 wrote:
> one has to give up many of the features, and is still faced with many of
> the other technical issues, that IMO one is better off just using C...

I completely agree. Once you start dropping features from C++ (templates,
exceptions, RAII, references, function and operator overloading) then you
get an incomplete language, some sort of "C with classes" (the horror!) so
you should better use C then.

I feel so lucky that I don't have to drop any C++ feature...

--
Dizzy
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Re: Rusty's message to C++ programmers (C or C++)         


Author: Ian Collins
Date: May 6, 2008 02:49

dizzy wrote:
> cr88192 wrote:
>
>> one has to give up many of the features, and is still faced with many of
>> the other technical issues, that IMO one is better off just using C...
>
> I completely agree. Once you start dropping features from C++ (templates,
> exceptions, RAII, references, function and operator overloading) then you
> get an incomplete language, some sort of "C with classes" (the horror!) so
> you should better use C then.
>
Why would you have to drop templates, RAII, references, function and
operator overloading in driver code? Exceptions typically require some
form of run time support, but none of the other language features you
mention do.

--
Ian Collins.
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