http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/ Posts for comp.lang.basic.misc Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:59:44 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/ http://www.nnseek.com/img/64.png 64 64 NNSeek http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/programming_languages_decisions_119289835t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/programming_languages_decisions_119289835t.html
Report Posted by E.D.G. August 18, 2008

This report is intended for any computer programming experts who
would like to propose that their favorite programming language is the one
that should be used for the potentially important application that is being
discussed here.

The report is also for people who are interested in disaster
mitigation science. They might want to skip to Section 3 of the report.

If you have a response that would be of interest to people in just
one Newsgroup then I recommend that you post it to only that Newsgroup.

If you have a technical comment that you want to make certain that I
see then you should send me an E-mail copy of your posting.

The information in this report represents expressions of personal opinion.

1. The Purpose Of This Report
2. Programming Language Recommendations
3. The Importance Of This Effort
4. Download Web Sites
5. Computer Viruses

1. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPORT

If all goes according to plan, within a few weeks I will begin
circulating .exe copies of a Perl language disaster mitigation related
computer program that I have been developing during the past decade or so.
People will be able to download the program and its associated support files
from some Web site for free and then use them for free. The Perl program
presently sends data to the Gnuplot program for any graphics work that needs
to be done.

When the program is released, things could get a little hectic. So
now might be a good time to consider if Perl and Gnuplot are the best
choices for future work regarding this application.

Some information regarding the types of data the program generates
and the importance of this effort can be found in Section 3 of this report.

ActivePerl version 5.8.8 from http://www.activestate.com is being used on a
PC computer running Windows XP.

ActivePerl version 5.10 from http://www.ActiveState.com is being used on a
newer PC computer running Windows Vista.

The Gnuplot graphics program version 4.2.1 for Windows systems from
http://www.gnuplot.info is being used on both computers.

Newer versions of those programs will be installed on both computers
as time permits.

When 5.10 was installed it required that some minor changes be made
to the format of the SendKeys and IsKeyPressed commands. The commands still
worked with 5.8.8 after the changes were made.

When the downloadable Perl program is released a notice will be
circulated regarding that. Programmers will be able to see how it runs on
their own computers. As an .exe type program it should run "as is" on PCs
running Windows XP or Vista. No Perl compiler will be needed. After people
have seen it run they can again express an opinion regarding what the best
program languages might be for future work with that application.

Scientific researchers interested in using and developing the program
will fall into one of two groups.

A. Independent Researchers

They will have to continue working with Perl and Gnuplot until a
decision is made to change to other programming languages. I am not a
programming expert. But some of those independent researchers are. And if
one of them decides to move in another direction that looks productive then
I will probably go along with that.

B. Government and University Researchers

Most of them have their own computer programmers. And they might
decide to develop this application using a language they are already working
with. Before making such a change they might contact me and ask if I
believe that such a change would be a good idea. Or they might simply make
the change without consulting with anyone.

When the Perl program is released, programmers can contact
governments and universities etc. and recommend that if their own
programmers are going to be doing any development work on it then they
should change to some other programming language. They can also contact me
and state that. If and when I discuss this with government officials etc. I
can pass along that information.

I myself will be trying to convince governments etc. to use the
program for important research work. It is essentially a probability number
generator. And among other things I will be trying to get them to develop
more accurate probability equations. Now that several fundamental and
crucially important physics discoveries have been made there is almost
unlimited room for improvement. That work should be fairly easy for
government and university researchers and perhaps even independent
researchers once they have the original program. They will be able to add
their own equations and subroutines to it and use it to test their theories
and data.

2. PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE RECOMMENDATIONS

It is okay with me if the program is translated to some other
language or even multiple languages. But if possible I would like to see
the following features remain with it.

The programming languages should do or have the following:

--- Be permanently available as free downloads.

That should make it possible for researchers around the world to do
their own development work without having to periodically purchase new
software. The version of Perl I am using is a free download from the
ActiveState Web site. It is possible that that free download situation
could change. However I expect that some versions of Perl and Gnuplot will
probably always be available as a free downloads from Web sites.

Gnuplot is being used with Perl to take advantage of the fact that
the Gnuplot graphics capabilities will probably remain available in their
present form or with only minor changes. Some older Perl graphics modules
might not work with newer versions of Perl. Additionally, if my program is
translated to some other language the new program should still work with
Gnuplot.

--- Run with different operating systems such as Windows and Unix and on
different types of computers such as standard PCs and Macs.

The present program is designed to work with Windows XP and Vista
operating systems on PC type computers. Those are the systems that most of
the researchers originally interested in the program are probably using.
But Unix and Mac users etc. will probably also want versions of the program
that will run with their computers.

--- Be powerful and versatile.

It should be able to:

------ Detect and respond to keystrokes such as when you press an arrow or
alphanumeric key.

------ Send keyboard type information to the operating system. For
example, the program might need to send information to some other program
that allows that to be done only through keyboard entry.

----- Do things such as generate sounds.

----- Chain to another program of the same type while having string and
array information remain active and available for use by the chained
program.

----- Start an external program running and send information to it and
receive information from it using "pipe" commands, for example, while the
original program continues running in the background.

When using Windows XP and Vista I have found that Perl has some
problems with that. Depending upon the application, Gnuplot being one
example, after starting the external program running the Perl program might
stop executing commands and wait until the other program exits. I have been
able to get around the problem by telling Perl to start a Windows shortcut
program that tells the external program to start running.

--- Be moderately easy to use for people who are not professional computer
programmers.

Gnuplot probably qualifies for that for at least what my program
requires. I have found that Perl works well once you learn exactly how a
particular command operates. However, that learning process can be
problematic for people such as myself who are not expert programmers. On
the other hand, Perl is sufficiently powerful and versatile that it has so
far been worth the trouble for me to work through any problems.

--- Be supported by a Newsgroup.

--- Be a compiler type of language.

Programs that interpret one line of code at a time tend to be too
slow to do repeated, complex calculations in a reasonable amount of time.
With my application for Gnuplot this is not a problem as it does not take
too long to generate charts.

The main Perl program needs to be able to do rapid calculations
largely when it is processing new data. Most of the time researchers will
be examining data screens and tables, trying to interpret their meaning.
And the program will be sitting idle, waiting for the next graphics display
command.

--- The graphics program should be either extremely fast or have the
ability to make small, reversible changes to the screen without the need to
replot the entire screen. For example, people might want to display things
like multiple lines, arrows, or shapes and have them able to move around the
screen fairly quickly.

If my understanding of this is correct, Gnuplot requires that you
replot the entire screen if you wish to restore data that you have drawn
over. However for my own application that is presently not a major problem
as even the slowest replots can refresh the screen at least twice a second.

--- Have a feature that allows .exe versions of the program to be created.

For various reasons that feature is probably not important for
Gnuplot. But with the main Perl program it can be because most of the
people who will be using it will just want to run it and not make any
changes. They will want something that they can get running with a mouse
click or two. And they are not going to be willing to work with a compiler.
It took me more than a year to determine how to get Perl to generate .exe
programs. I was finally able to do that on August 2, 2008. And since them
I have been working on getting my programs into shape for circulation rather
than continue with efforts to add new features to them.

The .exe programs can be rather large, three megabyes for my present
program. And they run a little slower than ones that the Perl compiler
generates when you run it. But they are easy to create after all of the
necessary modules have been merged with Perl etc. and do not require that
.exe program users install anything on their computers.

3. THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS EFFORT

Eventually, many lives and large amounts of money might be affected.

The important introductory physics and math work has already been
done. And to a certain extent much of the development work can now be done
by computer programmers.

The Perl language program has multiple applications. The first one
is operational and "user friendly" features such as help files are presently
being added to it to make it easier for people to use. With the other
applications a fair amount of additional programming work needs to be done
to translate Basic and Excel code to Perl. That could take several months.

The first application enables government, university, and independent
researchers to compare earthquakes with one another and in the process learn
how they are being triggered. As far as I am aware, this is the first
program of that type ever created that will enable them make those
comparisons in an almost effortless manner.

Earthquakes can claim tens of thousands of lives in a year. And a
single earthquake can do hundreds of billions of dollars worth of property
damage in a matter of minutes. As a consequence, any information that
governments and researchers can obtain regarding why they are occurring when
and where they occur and how they might be predicted could conceivably
result in the savings of tremendous numbers of lives and the avoidance of an
incredible amount of property damage. If government officials in some city
know that one might be approaching they can make certain that major fuel and
electricity lines can be shut down quickly when the earthquake occurs so
that fires do not start and get out of control.

It is generally accepted that earthquakes occur when fault zone rock
layers accumulate strain energy resulting from processes such as the
movement of tectonic plates relative to one another. However researchers
are not in agreement regarding how they are being triggered - why they are
occurring at the exact time they occur, or if they are simply random events
that are not being triggered by anything that can be monitored. My data
clearly indicate to me that they are often being triggered at specific times
by forces associated directly or indirectly with the gravitational pulls of
the sun and the moon. Ocean tide height related earthquake triggering would
be one such indirect link.

This is something that I have been explaining to the international
scientific community for quite a few years. The response has generally been
that other data do not show that. And my response has then been that the
wrong types of calculations are being done to make those comparisons.
People need to use the types of equations I have been discussing. The
response has then generally been to do nothing. Scientist who have
responded in a positive manner have usually gone off on their own to try to
publish papers etc. And I never hear from them again.

This first application contains all of the necessary equations and
data tables for doing this earthquake comparison type of work plus fairly
sophisticated graphics capabilities for displaying results. I believe that
people using the programs will be able to immediately begin doing research
that in certain respects is a decade to a quarter of a century more advanced
than what can presently be done by top government agency researchers.

After the programs become available there could be thousands of
independent researchers around the world doing this type of work without the
present need to be employed by a university or government agency. All they
will need are moderately powerful personal computers and a basic knowledge
of physics and math. They will not need to be able to do any computer
programming unless they want to change or add to the original code.

Since earthquakes can quickly cause hundred of billions of dollars
worth of property damage, government and university scientists will likely
wish to get involved with this program development effort rather than be
left behind by independent researchers. And if and when they do, should
they be unhappy with the Perl - Gnuplot combination of languages presently
being used they will chose some other language or combination of languages
to work with. It won't take them long to make such a decision. So, the
time window of opportunity for people to make the case that their own
favorite programming language is the logical one to use might be less than a
year, or just a few months, or perhaps even just a few weeks long.

4. DOWNLOAD WEB SITES

The main Perl program and its associated support files and
directories will probably be available as a Windows XP or Vista zip file
that can be downloaded for free from some Web site. Because of the
moderately large size of that file, at least five megabytes, I cannot store
it for downloads at my personal Web site.

http://www.freewebz.com/eq-forecasting/Data.html

That site stops running if too much information is downloaded during
a month period of time. So I am instead planning to have the file stored at
other Web sites. And if anyone has a recommended download site then I would
be interested in that information.

http://sourceforge.net would be a logical choice. However, at
least initially I don't want to go through the trouble of registering at the
site. There are several others where I can simply send files to the owners
and they will immediately store them at their sites.

5. COMPUTER VIRUSES

When the program is released there will probably be some information
made available regarding computer viruses. The main program will be an .exe
program. And it will be stored in a zip file. Certain precautions should
be taken when those types of files are downloaded and used. I won't be able
to personally control the Web sites where they are stored.

If they wish, people might try unzipping the files and running the
programs on an old computer. If time permits I will try to see if they will
run on a Windows 98 system. Numerous people around the world probably have
an old computer sitting somewhere that uses that operating system.

Finally, I myself cannot recall any past instances where someone did
something as simple as release a new computer program and as a result, spark
a major and virtually overnight revolution in an important area of science
where innumerable lives and billions of dollars worth of property damage
could be at stake. So there is no way to tell for certain from past events
exactly what is going to happen here. I do expect that immediately after
the program is released work on this project will get underway by
independent researchers and probably government scientists in a number of
countries including India and the People's Republic of China. The
technology has already been discussed in an internationally circulated news
report, in a television program shown around the world, and at a disaster
mitigation conference in Beijing, China in December of 2003. We will have
to see how long it takes other countries such as the U.S. and Japan to
become interested.

Posted In: comp.lang.basic.misc

no comments

Reply

]]> Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:59:44 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/comp_lang_basic_misc_go_118952683t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/comp_lang_basic_misc_go_118952683t.html http://function.googlebong.com


Blanche Sauseda GoogleBong






img { border: 2px solid Black }

pre { font: 6pt/8pt }

p,blockquote { font: 16pt; font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif' }

h1,h2,h3,h4,ul { font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif'; font: 14p }

table,li,td { font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif'; font: 12p }

ul { list-style: disc }

ol { list-style: decimal }

body { background: "#EEEEEE" }

h1,h2,h3,h4,hr,p,ul,blockquote,pre { color:Black }

a:link { color:Blue }

a:visited { color:Blue }

a:active { color:"#008000" }

a:hover { color:"#008000" }

h1.header { padding:0em; margin:0 }

div.container { width:100%%; margin:0px; border:1px solid Black; line-height:150%% }

div.header,div.footer { padding:0.5em; color:white; background-color:Black; clear:left }

div.left { width:15%%; margin:0; float:left; padding:0; }

div.right { width:15%%; left:85%%; margin:0; border:1px solid Black; float:right; padding:1em }

div.content { width:70%%; left:15%%; margin:3em; padding:3em }

Posted In: comp.lang.basic.misc

no comments

Reply

]]> Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:32:53 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/articles_aug_9_liberty_basic_programmers_encyclope_118332907t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/articles_aug_9_liberty_basic_programmers_encyclope_118332907t.html programmers. It was founded by the publishing team from The Liberty
BASIC Newsletter as a new format and continuation of that
publication.

http://lbpe.wikispaces.com/Articles+by+Date

Here are the new articles:

August 8, 2008

Scanning with EZTwain - JanetTerra

August 5, 2008

FlashWindow - JanetTerra

Posted In: comp.lang.basic.misc

no comments

Reply

]]> Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:50:20 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/earn_money_2500_10000_per_week_115305195t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/earn_money_2500_10000_per_week_115305195t.html SIMPLE ONLINE SURVEY
OTHER DETAILS LOGONTO
****************************************************************************
http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=sivaicici

http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=sivaicici

http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=sivaicici

*************************************************************************

Posted In: comp.lang.basic.misc

no comments

Reply

]]> Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:18:44 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/announce_release_0_70_of_bdb_basic_is_now_availabl_114711019t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/announce_release_0_70_of_bdb_basic_is_now_availabl_114711019t.html
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=213049

Platforms:
==========

- Linux
- Cygwin
- HPUX
- Solaris
- AIX

Feature and Change Summary for 0.70:
====================================

- Database functionality has been tested and bug fixed.
Extensive tests are now included in the test suite.
- Related to the above, transactional capabilities have
been disabled by default, due to bugs in Berkeley's
DB (provoked perhaps by BDB-Basic's use of its own
key compare routines, which is required).
- Colours have been added to interactive mode messages.
- Hexadecimal constants are now supported.
- VARYING string support in the database indexes and
binary file I/O has been enhanced to be varying.
- Several functions added.
- Ability to declare new records like existing ones (clone)
- Dynamic array resizing is fully supported.

BDB Note:

Due to the suspension of transactional capabilities (above)
BDB-BASIC at present cannot support a multi-user
application on the same database. How this issue will
be resolved is unknown at the moment.

Any code using a COMMIT TRANSACTION will always succeed.
Release 0.70 will always raise an error if the
ABORT TRANSACTION statement is used.

Change Details:
===============

- Added colour to prompt, error messages, STATUS, SHOW FILE
and SHOW STACK commands.
- Hexadecimal constants may be entered into the program as
%%00F008 for example.
- Added attribute and colour mask constants needed for information
returned by CHRAT(Y,X). These are defined as CRT.AM_ATTRIBUTES
etc.
- Function CHRAT(Y,X) added to return character and
attribute information about screen location Y,X.
- LISTP command now shows date, bytes, line count and the program
name.
- SAVE/RESAVE/LOAD now store some program header information,
which will make the program version and the date created/
modified
available to LISTP.
- Changed SYS.STATEMENTS so that it is modifyable by the program.
- Date/time created is now saved in the binary executable
for a basic program.
- LOAD/SAVE now reports the date/time created (date is also
saved within the binary "file" when saved outside of the
database).
- Added sh environment variables BB_DTFORMAT and BB_DFORMAT to
allow user customization of the interpreter date/time
formats. These affect the command interface only (not the
executing BASIC programs).
- Fake data added for database tests.
- PRINT CRT(CS) now sets the screen background colour to the
last PRINT BG(COLOUR) settting used.
- Enhanced the PRINT statement to allow slashes to specify
newlines.
- Changed the way VARYING length strings are stored in the
database, and used by the primary and secondary indexes.
The variable length string content is now preceded by a 1
to 5 byte length prefix. One byte is used for lengths less
than or equal to 127 bytes, etc. This corrects secondary
index issues that were occurring. This also improves the
density of indexed data leading to much better
performance.
- Binary file I/O now properly writes VARYING length strings
in varying lengths, in the same way that they are used by
the Berkeley DB index and record data.
- Ported to AIX 5.x port (in 64 bit mode using gcc &
bison).
- Added missing string function TRIM$(S$) to trim trailing
blanks.
- The function LENGTH may be used on a record now.
LENGTH(RECD) now returns the binary length of the record
as it would be written to file (or a database row).
- Added a ROT13$() function for simple encryption, or
obfuscation.
- When the project is compiled with the default of
EN_REWRITE_CURRENT set to zero, the REWRITE CURRENT()
statement will automatically recover from the error when
secondary index cursors are used. Refer to the online
change log for more specific details.
- Added test suite module for TEMP tables and HASH tables.
- Fixed the creation of and opening of HASH tables.
- Fixed error handling in OPEN CREATE TABLE operations.
Previously the OPEN CREATE would succeed, even when the
table already existed. This now raises the error
ERRS.EEXIST when the table previously exists.
- Added the ROUND(FVAL,DEC) function to allow rounding of
values.
- The SHORT, LONG, DIM and VARYING statements now support
"resizing" of arrays.
- Lifted syntax restrictions on PRINT statement expressions.
Now the only restriction is within the CRT() function
calls that are unique to the PRINT statement. Now it is
possible to use PRINT A+B*D,Z,ETC
- Now supports cloning of existing records with a modified
RECORD statement format.
- The ENTER and MERGE commands have been enhanced to report
any lines that get replaced (due to duplicate line
numbers).

BUG FIX HIGHLIGHTS:

- Bug fix: When OUTPUT statement is to the screen, perform a
flush to force the I/O.
- Bug fix: Continuation of the May 27th bug fix, which was
incomplete.
- Bug fix: READ from DATA statements bug fixed. Previously,
if there were non-DATA statements in between, an abort
would occur.
- Bug fix: related to PRIMARY and SECONDARY database indexes.
- Bug fix: Now allows parentheses around relational
expressions in the IF statement (these were being
erroneously flagged as syntax errors).
- Fixed the attribute resetting bug: like PRINT CRT(ABO0).
Previously the attribute was not being turned off.
- Fixed bug where COMMON statement aborts when an undefined
variable is used.
- Fixed formatting bug between right bracket and ON in START
FIRST statement.
- Bug fixes for secondary index data when variable length
strings were used in the index.
- Bug fix: OPEN CREATE HASH() tables are now supported.
- Fixed a bug where a VARYING string could be declared
within a RECORD DECLARE statement that was not a string
name (didn't end in a dollar sign).
- Fixed WRITE TABLE/DELETE TABLE statement so that the ON
KEY GOTO ... clause worked when required.

A full description of all changes are found here:

http://bdbbasic.wiki.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog

What is BDB-BASIC?
==================

In a nutshell, BDB-BASIC is designed to be an open sourced POSIX
friendly BASIC interpreter, supporting database functionality and
business related functions. It can be operated as a shell script,
or as a subsystem.

It is targeted at small business owners, scientists, experimenters,
ham
radio operators and hobbyists. It also should make a great environment
for those wishing to learn about programming.

See http://bdbbasic.wiki.sourceforge.net for more information.

--
Warren.

Posted In: comp.lang.basic.misc

no comments

Reply

]]> Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:17:16 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/powerbasic_at_davar_web_site_113823467t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/powerbasic_at_davar_web_site_113823467t.html techniques along with several useful fully-functional programs.

http://www.davar.net/PC/PBASIC/PBASIC.HTM

PowerBASIC support 4DOS batch command scripts
-------- PowerBASIC Functions
COMPRES$ Compress character string
DAY2GRE$ Convert absolute day number into Gregorian date
DIGITAL%% Check character string for digital value (predicate)
FILEREC%% Count number of file records
GRE2DAY& Convert Gregorian date into absolute day number
GRE2JUL$ Convert Gregorian date into Julian date format
JUL2GRE$ Convert Julian date into Gregorian date format
LEAP%% Check year for leap value (predicate)
PARSE$ Parse character string into substring array
REVERSE$ Reverse character string
TAILSTR$ Get character string tail
TRANS$ Translate character string symbols
VALDGRE%% Check date for valid Gregorian value (predicate)
WEEKDAY$ Form day of a week abbreviated name
-------- PowerBASIC Routines
PRNTCLR Print colored text to screen
PROGRES Display file processing progress indicator
PROGRTM Display file processing progress indicator
with the elapsed/left time
-------- PowerBASIC Procedures
CONVLNK Convert plain text link list into HTML form
DIR2COP Convert directory into COPY batch script
DSC2REN Convert DESCRIPT.ION into rename *.BAT
RENPHOT Rename digital photo image JPG files
--------
PowerBASIC links

RSS feed of latest updates to the site - http://www.davar.net/RSS.XML

Updates to the site can be easily traced by corresponding colored
dates attached to key items - brighter colors indicate more recent
changes (see more about it at http://www.davar.net/ABOUT.HTM#Dates).

Posted In: comp.lang.basic.misc

no comments

Reply

]]> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:43:53 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/powerbasic_at_davar_web_site_113636587t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/powerbasic_at_davar_web_site_113636587t.html techniques along with several useful fully-functional programs.

http://www.davar.net/PC/PBASIC/PBASIC.HTM

PowerBASIC support 4DOS batch command scripts
-------- PowerBASIC Functions
COMPRES$ Compress character string
DAY2GRE$ Convert absolute day number into Gregorian date
DIGITAL%% Check character string for digital value (predicate)
FILEREC%% Count number of file records
GRE2DAY& Convert Gregorian date into absolute day number
GRE2JUL$ Convert Gregorian date into Julian date format
JUL2GRE$ Convert Julian date into Gregorian date format
LEAP%% Check year for leap value (predicate)
PARSE$ Parse character string into substring array
REVERSE$ Reverse character string
TAILSTR$ Get character string tail
TRANS$ Translate character string symbols
VALDGRE%% Check date for valid Gregorian value (predicate)
WEEKDAY$ Form day of a week abbreviated name
-------- PowerBASIC Routines
PRNTCLR Print colored text to screen
PROGRES Display file processing progress indicator
PROGRTM Display file processing progress indicator
with the elapsed/left time
-------- PowerBASIC Procedures
CONVLNK Convert plain text link list into HTML form
DIR2COP Convert directory into COPY batch script
DSC2REN Convert DESCRIPT.ION into rename *.BAT
RENPHOT Rename digital photo image JPG files
--------
PowerBASIC links

RSS feed of latest updates to the site - http://www.davar.net/RSS.XML

Updates to the site can be easily traced by corresponding colored
dates attached to key items - brighter colors indicate more recent
changes (see more about it at http://www.davar.net/ABOUT.HTM#Dates).

Posted In: comp.lang.basic.misc

no comments

Reply

]]> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:56:14 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/px_ib_get_rich_quick_cons_beware_px_ib7_113398251t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/px_ib_get_rich_quick_cons_beware_px_ib7_113398251t.html
"Will The Next Liar Please Stand Up"

http://www.SoupNaziSecrets.com/ng2.html




L!Nihlo!lXSy;Tb

Posted In: comp.lang.basic.misc

no comments

Reply

]]> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:58:42 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/extremely_advanced_user_in_vba_to_newbie_in_vb_please_113128427t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/extremely_advanced_user_in_vba_to_newbie_in_vb_please_113128427t.html In this respect, VB is more like the older, traditional forms of Basic
-> customarily discussed in this newsgroup.

Talking about older BASICs, I have made an observation...

A while ago, I posted here a QBasic program I had written that
calculates the position of the sun in the sky as seen from anywhere on
Earth at any time on any date, and also the required alignment of a
mirror if it is to reflect sunlight in any desired direction. I also
posted (and several people here tested for me) a "dumbed-down" version
that would run in ancient BASICs such as GW-BASIC, and also in some
recent implementations that are compatible with old BASICs. This
version of the program even has line numbers!

I also posted the same two versions on a couple of websites that are
concerned with solar energy. These sites keep count of the number of
times each posting is accessed, so I can see how many times each of the
two versions has been read. Possibly, some of these times, the program
has been copied and maybe put to use.

The interesting thing is that the dumbed-down version gets read far
more often than the QBasic one, by a ratio of about 2 to 1. Apparently,
in this context, there's a lot more interest in code that will work on
old BASICs than in more elegant, better-documented code.

Interesting...

dow

Posted In: comp.lang.basic.misc

no comments

Reply

]]> Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:37:32 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/best_nntp_group_for_freebasic_questions_111865067t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/comp.lang.basic.misc/best_nntp_group_for_freebasic_questions_111865067t.html questions and annoyances.

Is this newsgroup the best place for questions about FreeBasic, or is
there another one? Either on Usenet or on some specialized NNTP server,
since I'd *really* like to avoid having to use a WWW-based forum.

--
Peter Knutsen
sagatafl.org

Posted In: comp.lang.basic.misc

7 Comments

Reply

]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:43:41 PDT