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Author: Ian Michael GumbyIan Michael Gumby Date: Sep 19, 2008 06:28
Call me a nut. I don't care.
I support all of the major databases except SQLServer, but I might
start learning it for the hell of it.
Informix wasn't my first database. Prior to Informix I dealt a bit
with 4Phase, Progress, and my own proprietary database for a fetal
anatomy study project done under an NSF grant when I was a senior in
high school and the summer before college.
But Informix caught my attention because of the elegance of its design
and the attention paid to details. Sure it had some warts, but with
each revision, the worst of them were removed.
After Phil White left the building, the next 3 CEOs were fools. Ok PG
wasn't a fool. He was a horse trader and wanted to cash out of his
investment and move on to the next big deal. You have to respect that.
Under IBM, Janet wanted to slowly kill IDS and relegate it to the same
status as IMS, something that IBM still supports today.
But the truth is that IDS is a great product. There are features in
11.5 that are still ahead of the pack and its still one of the best
general purpose rdbms on the market today.
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Author: ZachiZachi Date: Sep 19, 2008 07:08
On Sep 19, 9:28Â am, Ian Michael Gumby hotmail.com> wrote:> Call me a nut. I don't care.
>
> I support all of the major databases except SQLServer, but I might
> start learning it for the hell of it.
> Informix wasn't my first database. Prior to Informix I dealt a bit
> with 4Phase, Progress, and my own proprietary database for a fetal
> anatomy study project done under an NSF grant when I was a senior in
> high school and the summer before college.
>
> But Informix caught my attention because of the elegance of its design
> and the attention paid to details. Sure it had some warts, but with
> each revision, the worst of them were removed.
>
> After Phil White left the building, the next 3 CEOs were fools. Ok PG
> wasn't a fool. He was a horse trader and wanted to cash out of his
> investment and move on to the next big deal. You have to respect that.
>
> Under IBM, Janet wanted to slowly kill IDS and relegate it to the same
> status as IMS, something that IBM still supports today. ...
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Author: InDeepInDeep Date: Sep 19, 2008 07:50
Zachi wrote:
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> OK, I'll call you a nut. Get a life. You have been repeating this for
> the past several months and bashing about it with other fine members
> of the IDS community and other communities (i.e. Oracle guys). There
> are a dozen of you who keep on wasting bandwidth. And you know what?
> The only people who should indeed care are not reading this (that is
> IBM management). So let's just move on and discuss things that we
> actually can change or use in our work. Or open your own group:
> comp.databases.informix-whiners could be a good name.
>
> Zachi
Almost word-for-word what they said about porting Informix to Linux!
*<8o)
It's deja-vu all over again!
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Author: Ian Michael GumbyIan Michael Gumby Date: Sep 19, 2008 09:12
> From: indeep@ indeep.com
> Subject: Re: Why the IDS Community should be hopping mad!
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:50:36 -0700
> To: informix-list@ iiug.org
>
> Zachi wrote: >>
>> OK, I'll call you a nut. Get a life. You have been repeating this for
>> the past several months and bashing about it with other fine members
>> of the IDS community and other communities (i.e. Oracle guys). There
>> are a dozen of you who keep on wasting bandwidth. And you know what?
>> The only people who should indeed care are not reading this (that is
>> IBM management). So let's just move on and discuss things that we
>> actually can change or use in our work. Or open your own group:
>> comp.databases.informix-whiners could be a good name.
>>
>> Zachi >
> Almost word-for-word what they said about porting Informix to Linux!
> ...
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Author: InDeepInDeep Date: Sep 19, 2008 13:41
Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
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>> From: indeep@ indeep.com
>> Subject: Re: Why the IDS Community should be hopping mad!
>> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:50:36 -0700
>> To: informix-list@ iiug.org
>>
>> Zachi wrote: >>>
>>> OK, I'll call you a nut. Get a life. You have been repeating this for
>>> the past several months and bashing about it with other fine members
>>> of the IDS community and other communities (i.e. Oracle guys). There
>>> are a dozen of you who keep on wasting bandwidth. And you know what?
>>> The only people who should indeed care are not reading this (that is
>>> IBM management). So let's just move on and discuss things that we
>>> actually can change or use in our work. Or open your own group:
>>> comp.databases.informix-whiners could be a good name.
>>>
>>> Zachi ...
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Author: Obnoxio The ClownObnoxio The Clown Date: Sep 19, 2008 13:51
InDeep wrote:
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> I
> mean what would he possibly know coming from India, they have no real
> idea how Americans think anyway.....
>
Yeah, because only Americans care, right?
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Author: Neil TrubyNeil Truby Date: Sep 19, 2008 14:50
> InDeep wrote:
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>> I mean what would he possibly know coming from India, they have no real
>> idea how Americans think anyway.....
>
> Yeah, because only Americans care, right?
Well IBM is a US company, and all the major strategic decisons are therefore
taken in the US; I guess that's what he means.
As an admirer - and keen and impartial student - of America I'm sure that
the whole premise of his posting - that the US is heading for a Democratic
presidency - is just plain wrong anyway.
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Author: InDeepInDeep Date: Sep 19, 2008 15:27
Neil Truby wrote:
>> InDeep wrote:
>>>
>>> I mean what would he possibly know coming from India, they have no real
>>> idea how Americans think anyway.....
>>
>> Yeah, because only Americans care, right?
>
> Well IBM is a US company, and all the major strategic decisons are
> therefore taken in the US; I guess that's what he means.
>
> As an admirer - and keen and impartial student - of America I'm sure
> that the whole premise of his posting - that the US is heading for a
> Democratic presidency - is just plain wrong anyway.
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Author: Obnoxio The ClownObnoxio The Clown Date: Sep 19, 2008 15:33
InDeep wrote:
> Neil Truby wrote:
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>>> InDeep wrote:
>>>
>>>> I mean what would he possibly know coming from India, they have no real
>>>> idea how Americans think anyway.....
>>>>
>>> Yeah, because only Americans care, right?
>>>
>> Well IBM is a US company, and all the major strategic decisons are
>> therefore taken in the US; I guess that's what he means.
>>
>> As an admirer - and keen and impartial student - of America I'm sure
>> that the whole premise of his posting - that the US is heading for a
>> Democratic presidency - is just plain wrong anyway.
>> ...
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Author: InDeepInDeep Date: Sep 19, 2008 16:16
Obnoxio The Clown wrote:
> InDeep wrote:
>> Neil Truby wrote:
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>>>> InDeep wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I mean what would he possibly know coming from India, they have no
>>>>> real
>>>>> idea how Americans think anyway.....
>>>>>
>>>> Yeah, because only Americans care, right?
>>>>
>>> Well IBM is a US company, and all the major strategic decisons are
>>> therefore taken in the US; I guess that's what he means.
>>>
>>> As an admirer - and keen and impartial student - of America I'm sure
>>> that the whole premise of his posting - that the US is heading for a ...
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