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Re: Canada Loses 3 More Soldiers         

Group: can.politics · Group Profile
Author: sdgreen
Date: Sep 5, 2008 20:49

"Tom P" nospam.com> wrote in message
news:VU1wk.36208$Rs1.15059@newsfe08.iad...
> sdgreen wrote:
>>
>> "Tom P" nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:M9Rvk.17199$3A4.4217@newsfe04.iad...
>>> There were 3 more Canadian casualties in the Afghan war. After 7 years
>>> of fighting, there is no end in sight.
>>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/09/04/afghan-natynczyk.html
>>>
>>> The war that is spearheaded by American forces is starting to spread.
>>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2008/09/04/pakistan-us.html
>>>
>>> The combat mission that Canada is involved in violates the UN Charter in
>>> at least 3 areas.
>>>
>>> 1. Members of the UN are not supposed to get involved in the conflict.
>>> 2. Civilian casualties from UN members is unacceptable.
>>> 3. Prisoners are tried under International Law. They are not to be taken
>>> out of the country of conflict.
>>>
>>> Canada's combat mission is therefore not sanctioned by the UN. It's time
>>> to bring the boys home.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Charter
>>>
>>> Chapter 1, Article 2 of the UN Charter states:
>>>
>>> The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in
>>> Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles:[1]
>>>
>>> 1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign
>>> equality of all its Members.
>>> 2. All Members, in order to ensure to all of them the rights and
>>> benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfill in good faith the
>>> obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter.
>>> 3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful
>>> means in such a manner that international peace and security, and
>>> justice, are not endangered.
>>> 4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from
>>> the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or
>>> political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent
>>> with the Purposes of the United Nations.
>>> 5. All Members shall give the United Nations every assistance in any
>>> action it takes in accordance with the present Charter, and shall
>>> refrain from giving assistance to any state against which the United
>>> Nations is taking preventive or enforcement action.
>>> 6. The Organization shall ensure that states which are not Members
>>> of the United Nations act in accordance with these Principles so far as
>>> may be necessary for the maintenance of international peace and
>>> security.
>>> 7. Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the
>>> United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the
>>> domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to
>>> submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this
>>> principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures
>>> under Chapter Vll.[1]
>>
>> ==================
>>
>> That's great where you have two parties in conflict who agree to do so,
>> however the Taliban do not recognize such principals or even the Geneva
>> convention.
>>
>> You must meet force with force, period.
>>
>
> That's not a UN option.
> This war is none of our business. Our job under the UN is to bring the
> warring sides together to bring peace. We have become part of the
> problem... not part of the solution.
>
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It is if the UN says so and they did. What if the opposition refuses to
negotiate for peace as the Taliban have. Do you quit?

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