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Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself         


Author: Zimelemon
Date: Sep 27, 2007 00:37

"The first indication that Microsoft should abandon Vista is its poor
sales figures. According to a recent report titled "Windows Vista Still
Underperforming in U.S. Retail" from NPD, Vista sales are significantly
behind XP sales during its early days. Even worse for Redmond, some are
reverting to XP, citing issues with compatibility and overall design."

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9785337-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0...

Ricardo Cardona

--- posted by geoForum on http://delphi.newswhat.com
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Re: Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself         


Date: Sep 27, 2007 01:44

"Zimelemon" wrote in message
news:46fad42f@newsgroups.borland.com...
> "The first indication that Microsoft should abandon Vista is its poor
> sales figures. According to a recent report titled "Windows Vista Still
> Underperforming in U.S. Retail" from NPD, Vista sales are significantly
[...]
>
http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9785337-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0...

What one needs to learn about MS is that they eventually get it right and/or
people eventually embrace it. It might take a little longer with Vista but
it's here to stay.
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Re: Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself         


Author: Uwe
Date: Sep 27, 2007 03:47

Ricardo

I wouldn't take that article too serious. The author - claiming that "Mac
and Linux work" - is obviously biased.

Vista worked fine for me from the very beginning. No problem even with
exotic hardware and so far not a single crash.

Uwe
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Re: Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself         


Author: Dave Nottage [TeamB]
Date: Sep 27, 2007 03:58

Uwe wrote:
> No problem even with exotic hardware and so far not a single crash

The article had nothing to do with crashes. Pity the author didn't
expand on "poor driver support", though. Perhaps you've been lucky with
your hardware, and others haven't.

--
Dave Nottage [TeamB]
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Re: Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself         


Author: Slagert
Date: Sep 27, 2007 04:51

The reality is: Vista IS Windows. It will get better in time but Vista was
just an excuse for selling us another expensive upgrade. It other words
Microsoft is trying to get more $$$ from us without delivering a truly next
generation OS in the bargain. They promised too much and delivered too
little. It needed more time to mature in the development stage before being
released. Microsoft charges too much for Vista, and it's only barely
catching up to OS X & Linux in many ways.

Microsoft should be split up into smaller business units that operate with
more autonomy. Separating the OS division from the applications divisions is
only one way this company should divide itself to stay competitive and
become more innovative. Separating Microsoft into smaller units would have a
similar effect as separating a large program into smaller units.

How about:

program Microsoft;
uses OS, Applications, ProgLanguages, Games, Entertainment, Servers,
Portals, R&D;

begin
(* put something here *)
end;
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Re: Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself         


Author: Uwe
Date: Sep 27, 2007 05:09

Dave
> The article had nothing to do with crashes.

He said "...people have been adopting Vista and becoming incensed by how
poorly it operates". I cannot agree that it does so, thus my example that I
didn't have a crash so far. Vista has some serious flaws, and I consider the
terrible UAC a major one. At least in this point I have to agree with the
author.
> Pity the author didn't expand on "poor driver support", though. Perhaps
> you've been lucky with your hardware, and others haven't.

Yep, I agree. And maybe I've been lucky with my hardware. Even a 4 year old
Nikon slide scanner works without a flaw. Try to run that device with Linux
or Mac, and you're screwed. The author's statement "As a daily user of Mac
OS X, Ubuntu and Vista, I'm keenly aware of what works and what doesn't. Mac
and Linux work." is nonsense, IMHO.

Uwe
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Re: Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself         


Author: Dave Nottage [TeamB]
Date: Sep 27, 2007 05:15

Uwe wrote:
>> The article had nothing to do with crashes.
>
> He said "...people have been adopting Vista and becoming incensed by
> how poorly it operates". I cannot agree that it does so, thus my
> example that I didn't have a crash so far.

"Operates poorly" doesn't exclusively mean "crashes", and possibly not
even include it.

--
Dave Nottage [TeamB]
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Re: Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself         


Author: Uwe
Date: Sep 27, 2007 05:20

Dave
> "Operates poorly" doesn't exclusively mean "crashes", and possibly not
> even include it.

That's why I said "example" ... ;-)

Cheers
Uwe
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Re: Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself         


Author: Slagert
Date: Sep 27, 2007 07:05

When I used NT and Windows9.x I had to keep switching back and forth
depending on what I needed to do. The really great thing about WindowsXP is
that it's NT with great multimedia support. Windows 9.x was NEVER going to
us to where we are today with video applications. Love it or hate it: NTFS
got past the 2GB (or 4GB) file size limit too. I can't say that Vista takes
us as far forward from XP as XP took us from WinME.

BTW the latest rumors about Apple are about it's mini tablet based on
Apple's mutli-touch technology with OS X - due out the middle of next year.
Now we're talking about something that could be really exciting! Maybe we
could even see, gasp, pc manufactures run with the idea and running Vista
(not windows mobile) on a 4x6 hi-res tablet. Of course a tablet version of
Vista wouldn't have the multi-touch interface like a OS X product, but how
many times have you wished you were carrying a computer the size of a
paperback book instead of a laptop?

-Andy
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Re: Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself         


Author: Andre Kaufmann
Date: Sep 27, 2007 07:03

Dave Nottage [TeamB] schrieb:
> Uwe wrote:
>
>> No problem even with exotic hardware and so far not a single crash
>
> The article had nothing to do with crashes. Pity the author didn't
> expand on "poor driver support", though. Perhaps you've been lucky with
> your hardware, and others haven't.

I can't agree that driver support in Vista is poor. But I run a 32 bit
version of it, not the 64 bit one.

Andre
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