http://blog.businessofsoftware.org/2008/05/embarcadero-buy.html

with comments by Greg, Nick and Allen

I suspect this post will be pulled, because it will probably be seen as rude
and excessively critical. But here goes.....

I am less excited than most about the sale. The reason is that I'm not
convinced CodeGear's difficulties have been caused by its owner, anyway
(except in the most indirect sense).

I hate to say this, but I'm not sure the CodeGear team is particularly
competent:

* D2006, D2006 and D2007 were new-feature-light and riddled with bugs (new
and old) at launch.

* A WHOLE YEAR after the launch of D2007, its Help system is still a
complete mess (yes, I know the CONTENT has improved a lot, but getting to it
is still a nightmare).

* They've got stupid little bugs extant which were reported FIVE YEARS AGO.

* Some of the VCL components are WAY behind the current Windows versions
(e.g. TRichEdit).

* The updating/patching system is unreliable in operation, and in terms of
nomenclature is a complete joke (see previous thread on Releases / Version
Numbers / Version Months / Hotfix Months).

Steve Thackery wrote:

Let's put it this way.. I've seen way worse

"Steve Thackery" nowhere.com> wrote:

If Borland is sinking and CodeGear is not to blame, it's good news that CodeGear was sold before Borland sinks definitively.

If CodeGear is the culprit, then it's good news that it's sold before it sinks Borland, that doesn't seem able to hold CG for much longer. Embarcadero's owners seem to have deeper pockets, so they could deliver at least a couple more Delphi versions and we might see things that aren't still in the roadmap.

I do think you have a point with the need for a vision. But I think it's been there all the time. If they just listen to customers, put .NET in the slow lane and try to produce native code cross-platform tools then Delphi would stand on its own.

P.S. for all confused with the pronuntiaton. Try this increasingly fast:

end bar cat dead rock

barco = boat
embarcar = get on board
embarcadero = place where you get on board (dock)

"Steve Thackery" nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4828089f$1@newsgroups.borland.com...

I'd agree

with that too

and that

Yes

True

"Ray Mond" nospam.net> wrote in message
news:4827cec6@newsgroups.borland.com...

And in Greg's commnet, Delphi is placed in GUI with ASP, Java and C++,
but not in middle tier (Java, C++). This is very bad sign for Delphi.

My strong beleif is that Delphi potentional strength is middle tier code,
created with
lot of visual hel from IDE, a deployed on various platforms without
dependencies.

And, obviously, they don't have plans on that front. I can't understund, why
is that so
hard for Borland/CG/Embxycxcsf to understand. We only need natively compiled
object pascal code with memory, socket, file and sync services from OS code
runs on.

There is no need for cross platform GUI. Not even terminal, but it would be
welcomed.

"Hrvoje Brozovic"

LOL, yeah that name's got to be shortened. :)

Paul Hughes wrote:

I agree, the whole voting thing is just stupid, just fix the damn bugs.

I could see the voting for feature requests, but not for bugs. All bugs
should be fixed, not just ones that have lots of "votes".

Look at the Tregistry class for example, it can't do multi-string key
values and they have been around for awhile now, that should have been
upgraded to support current windows features, plus like others have said
bugs 5+ years old have not been fixed.

Paul Hughes wrote:

Oh, heaven forbid.

Given that time and resources are finite, what is your alternative?

Paul Hughes wrote:

Do you believe that since CG products are not free, they must have
infinite resources?