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Author: turtoni
Date: Mar 30, 2008 17:58

On Mar 30, 7:45 pm, "rs...@nycap.rr.com" nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> If we are to discuss intelligence, we must first make our peace with
> the relationship between body and soul. Some, of course, are not aware
> that there is a problem. Let them be happy in their ignorance. Do not
> disturb.
>
> Others are aware of a pseudo-problem that they lay to a poor choice of
> words, a misuse of language. They tend to be very, very clever. They
> turn on a spigot, and a rush of words befogs the question.
>
> Soul (spirit, essence, psyche, mind, consciousness, awareness,
> intelligence, intellect, mentality, self, individuality, persona,
> personality, conscious mental field, self awareness, sentience,
> executive function).
>
> All these words imply an uneasiness with soul. All these words imply
> an object, or something approaching an object. Something we might
> carry about in a watch pocket and take out for display at an
> appropriate time.
>
> Such a diarrhea of the mouth. There is no talking to them. They have
> surrounded themselves with such a fortress of words that they cannot
> hear.
>
> ---- ---
>
> Definition of  soul:
>
> 1.      (philosophical) the immaterial essence, animating principle, or
> actuating cause of an individual life.
> 2.      (theological) the spiritual principle embodied in human beings, all
> rational and spiritual beings, or the universe.
>
> --- ---
>
> In more recent metaphysics less has been heard of the soul and more of
> the mind; the old problem of the relationship of soul and body is now
> that of the relationship of mind and body.
>
> A few have carefully parsed the question: Chalmers, an optimist, says
> we need a new physics. McGinn, a pessimist, replies, "Save your
> breath".
>
> The practical issue, in questions of intelligence, arises when we ask,
> "Does the soul (mind) have causal powers?" The scientist demands,
> "No!" The religionist asserts, "Yes!" Descartes said, "Yes". The
> Princess Elizabeth said, "No". There it rests.
>
> The late Sir Francis Crick looked for the neural correlate of
> consciousness (NCC). He failed, but not for lack of trying.
>
> If we should isolate a neuron, such that every time it burst you
> should experience a patch of blue, a quale, and if we should go
> further, and connect a button to the neuron so that every time you
> pushed the button, you should be aware of a patch of blue, would you
> feel in touch with your soul? Most would say, "No!"
>
> Would you even feel that you understood why you experienced the blue?
> Again, Chalmers says, "We need a new physics to understand the
> experiencing". Again, McGinn replies, "Saved your breath".
>
> You, a soul, experience a world. You know not why.
>
> Let us explain intelligence as a circuitry of neurons. Let us put
> qualia one side as a matter of religion.
>
> ray

soul = consciousness

"Philosophical criticisms of the concept of consciousness
From the eighteenth to twentieth centuries many philosophers
concentrated on relations, processes and thought as the most important
aspects of consciousness. These aspects would later become known as
"access consciousness" and this focus on relations allowed
philosophers such as Marx, Nietzsche and Foucault to claim that
individual consciousness was dependent on such factors as social
relations, political relations and ideology.

Locke's "forensic" notion of personal identity founded on an
individual conscious subject would be criticized in the 19th century
by Marx, Nietzsche and Freud following different angles. Martin
Heidegger's concept of the Dasein ("Being-there") would also be an
attempt to think beyond the conscious subject.

Marx considered that social relations ontologically preceded
individual consciousness, and criticized the conception of a conscious
subject as an ideological conception on which liberal political
thought was founded. Marx in particular criticized the 1789
Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, considering that
the so-called individual natural rights were ideological fictions
camouflaging social inequality in the attribution of those rights.
Later, Louis Althusser would criticize the "bourgeois ideology of the
subject" through the concept of interpellation ("Hey, you!").

Nietzsche, for his part, once wrote that "they give you free will only
to later blame yourself", thus reversing the classical liberal
conception of free will in a critical account of the genealogy of
consciousness as the effect of guilt and ressentiment, which he
described in On the Genealogy of Morals. Hence, Nietzsche was the
first one to make the claim that the modern notion of consciousness
was indebted to the modern system of penalty, which judged a man
according to his "responsibility", that is by the consciousness
through which acts can be attributed to an individual subject: "I did
this! this is me!". Consciousness is thus related by Nietzsche to the
classic philosopheme of recognition which, according to him, defines
knowledge.[9]

According to Pierre Klossowski (1969), Nietzsche considered
consciousness to be a hypostatization of the body, composed of
multiple forces (the "Will to Power"). According to him, the subject
was only a "grammatical fiction": we believed in the existence of an
individual subject, and therefore of a specific author of each act,
insofar as we speak. Therefore, the conscious subject is dependent on
the existence of language, a claim which would be generalized by
critical discourse analysis (see for example Judith Butler).

Michel Foucault's analysis of the creation of the individual subject
through disciplines, in Discipline and Punish (1975), would extend
Nietzsche's genealogy of consciousness and personal identity - i.e.
individualism - to the change in the juridico-penal system: the
emergence of penology and the disciplinization of the individual
subject through the creation of a penal system which judged not the
acts as it alleged to, but the personal identity of the wrong-doer. In
other words, Foucault maintained that, by judging not the acts (the
crime), but the person behind those acts (the criminal), the modern
penal system was not only following the philosophical definition of
consciousness, once again demonstrating the imbrications between ideas
and social institutions ("material ideology" as Althusser would call
it); it was by itself creating the individual person, categorizing and
dividing the masses into a category of poor but honest and law-abiding
citizens and another category of "professional criminals" or
recidivists.

Gilbert Ryle has argued that traditional understandings of
consciousness depend on a Cartesian outlook that divides into mind and
body, mind and world. He proposed that we speak not of minds, bodies,
and the world, but of individuals, or persons, acting in the world.
Thus, by saying 'consciousness,' we end up misleading ourselves by
thinking that there is any sort of thing as consciousness separated
from behavioral and linguistic understandings.

The failure to produce a workable definition of consciousness also
raises formidable philosophical questions. When Antonio Dimasio[10]
defines consciousness as "an organism's awareness of its own self and
its surroundings," he hasn't said anything. The words "consciousness,"
"awareness," and "perception" convey a very passive sense, bringing up
images of the homunculus observer. The idea of consciousness also
implies a gratuitous distinction between awareness and sensation, as
if sensation or thought is something we have to be aware of.

The neurological data shows, however, that experience is a very
interactive thing. Our brain massages vast libraries of experience
that it draws upon to create a coherent body and a coherent world for
us. As in the act of reading a text, our reading of our bodies and the
world around us is a very active thing. Maturana and Varela[11] showed
that the brain is massively involved with creating worlds of
experience for us with meager input from the senses.

Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins[12] sums up the interactive
view of experience: "In a way, what sense organs do is assist our
brains to construct a useful model and it is this model that we move
around in. It is a kind of virtual reality simulation of the world.""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conciousness
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