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Group: balt.general · Group Profile
Author: Mr. Bag
Date: Apr 1, 2007 07:14

On Apr 1, 9:51 am, Lars Eighner larseighner.com> wrote:
> In our last episode,
> <1175424570.478428.38...@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> the lovely and talented Mr. Bag
> broadcast on alt.politics:
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>> On Mar 31, 9:57 pm, Lars Eighner larseighner.com> wrote:
>>> In our last episode,
>>> <1175392046.038651.24...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
>>> the lovely and talented Mr. Bag
>>> broadcast on alt.politics:
>
>>>> On Mar 31, 6:57 pm, "Stephen Cowell" sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> "Mr. Bag" aol.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>news:1175372364.544023.182760@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
>>>>>> On Mar 31, 11:49 am, "Stephen Cowell" sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Mr. Bag" aol.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>news:1175344409.400152.137970@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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>>>>>>> ...
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>>>>>>>> Want to stop tax cheating? Support
>>>>>>>>http://www.fairfax.org/site/PageServer.
>>>>>>>> You pay at the counter. You buy more, you pay more, you buy less, you
>>>>>>>> pay less simple as that. No gov't favortism in applying deductions
>>>>>>>> for this and penalties for that, you want something you pay. The
>>>>>>>> Mexican wants something he pays. The employer wants something he
>>>>>>>> pays. Someone reaping the huge tax free rewards in our current black
>>>>>>>> market economy wants something, they pay. No need to put the burden
>>>>>>>> of investigation on employers. Take back the power to control your
>>>>>>>> own destiny people and ensure everyone pays their fair share.
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>>>>>>> The fair share ain't flat... and you know it.
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>>>>>> I never claimed it was.
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>>>>> You're proposing a flat tax.
>>>> No. A flat tax is a value at which all INCOME is taxed. The fair tax
>>>> is based on CONSUMPTION not INCOME.
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>>> Just another tax break for the rich
>> Only if the rich decide to consume less.
>>> soak the poor Republican wet dream.
>> I'm about as far from a Republican politically as one is likely to
>> get, but I'm willing to acknowledge a good idea from wherever it
>> comes. The fairtax is a good idea. If you can cite a particular beef
>> you have it then do so. I hate when people I generally agree with are
>> forced to stoop to silly republican smear tactics. We are better than
>> this. Make a rational argument or remain silent. For it is better to
>> remain silent and be thought stupid than to open your mouth and remove
>> all doubt.
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> Will there be a tax on *everything*?

I suspect everything except maybe food purchased for home preparation.
> Will it apply to the purchase of
> certificates of deposit, stocks, bonds, insurance, wages of servants?

Sure, any good or service. Though I don't see a CD and bonds as
either really, but more of a guarantee from a borrower to return the
lender's principal along with a modest return for providing them some
short term capital. If anything, the borrower should probably pay tax
for the service of being loaned the money. If you are purchasing the
services of a servant, a doctor, or a hooker you should provide the
tax money up front. Don't want to pay the tax? Don't buy the product.
> Or will it only apply to things poor people buy while excluding most of the
> stuff that rich people buy?

Whatever gave you that crazy idea?
> Rich people should pay more because they benefit more.

I don't disagree. But if they choose to live like paupers, I think
it's perfectly within their rights to be taxed at the same degree.
> Placing a
> disproportionate tax burden on the poor is call regressive taxation for a
> reason.

And you haven't seen me ever condone that idea have you?
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