On Jul 28, 4:06 pm, ++
spambot.com> wrote:> Dear Bishop Daniel.
>
> Why don't you just join the orthodox Church?
Which one? All of the following are not in union and claim to be "the
true Orthodox Church"...
The one bully simply called The Orthodox Church? Or is it the Genuine
Orthodox Church, Macedonian Orthodox Church, Russian Old Believers,
the Matthewites, the Makarians, ROCA, the Russian True Orthodox
Church, Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Kiev Patriarchate), Ukrainian
Autocephalous Orthodox Church, Autonomous Ukrainian Orthodox Church in
America Belarusian Autocephalous Orthodox Church, Bulgarian
Alternative Synod, Orthodox Church in Italy. Montenegrin Orthodox
Church. Turkish Orthodox Church, Orthodox Catholic Churches of
America or maybe the monophysite Orthodox churches of the Copts or
Syrians. The Nestorians, perhaps?
> Why pretend to be orthodox
> when you actually can be Orthodox. Why pretend to be in the Eastern
> Orthodox tradition in your own mind when yo can be in the Eastern
> Orthodox tradition in reality? Why are you encouraging other people to
> join something fake when you and they can join something real?
Which one of the above is real and not fake? More importantly how can
you tell? What is the rule and authority for the only one that can
make the claim?
>
> Alternately, if you are just making your own relgion out of bits and
> pieces of religions you have read about or experienced or seen on TV or
> heard on the radio, a time honored American tradition, why pretend to be
> Orthodox when you are not? With thousands of home made religions, and
> Baltimore is especially full of them, why must you pretend to be other
> than what you are?
>
> Or, alternately, why not just join us. Ask yourself what there is about
> Orthodoxy that so draws you to our Faith, and then ask yourself why you
> feel you will not be welcome. Then, make the decision. Every boy takes
> his own time leaving the land of make believe for reality, I know as a
> mother.
>
> With regards to Baltimore and Dundalk,
>
> Galina
>
>
>
> Bishop Daniel Garguillio wrote:
>> NOVEL DUNDALK CHURCH TO FOLLOW TRADITION
>
>> Clerics will hark back to old-style liturgy
>
>> by Steve Pingel
>> The Dundalk Eagle, 7/3/08
>
>> This week, St. Peter Evangelical Lutheran Church on Eastern Avenue
>> became the newest site of the North American Old Catholic Church. The
>> idea, according to a June 25 press release, is to reach out to
>> "younger unchurched, and to older, traditional Catholics."
>
>> St. Andrew the First-Called Orthodox Church will operate out of the
>> St. Peter chapel.
>
>> Additionally, the FutureCare NorthPoint center on Old North Point Road
>> will host the Most Holy Theotokos Orthodox Church, a parochial mission
>> that will offer services to FutureCare residents.
>
>> The liturgies being offered are the same ones used by Eastern
>> Christians during the early days of the church, dated as far back as
>> 400 A.D.
>
>> "We have established a good working relationship with Pastor Bob
>> Harvey at St. Peter," said the Very Rev. Daniel J. Garguillio, pastor
>> at both Dundalk sites and abbot of the Holy Cross Monastery, whose
>> clerics will staff the locations. "And since St. Andrew the Apostle
>> was the brother of St. Peter, it seemed a more than apt location for
>> [St. Andrew]."
>
>> Most Holy Theotokos is at FutureCare, he said, because "many of the
>> clergy of the North American Old Catholic Church are involved in
>> nursing home ministry, as a way of reaching out to people who are
>> often marginalized and forgotten by society."
>
>> The Old Catholic Church is a Christian denomination whose originating
>> churches split from the Roman Catholic Church more than a century ago.
>
>> Garguillio feels there is an attraction for ancient prayer that steps
>> away from "modernized" worship, which is why the parish will offer the
>> liturgy of St. John Chrysostom.
>
>> "Our solemn, respected and chanted liturgy appeals to, and therefore
>> brings Christianity to, Goths, Renaissance Faire enthusiasts and many
>> other individuals who may just feel that the worship of God should
>> look like something other than an entertainment event," something that
>> people "just can't get anywhere else," Garguillio wrote in an e-mail.
>
>> "Beyond that," he continued, "let's face it: being able to attend the
>> same liturgy service which was seen by Byzantine emperors, early
>> saints and so forth is just, well, fantastic."
>
>> The service consists mostly of songs and hymns and offering of the
>> Communion, and closes with final thoughts and prayers from the
>> presiding cleric.
>
>> The Holy Cross Monastery, Garguillio explained, is a religious
>> community in the most ancient Eastern Orthodox tradition, in communion
>> with the North American Old Catholic Church.
>
>> 'We currently function as an "extended community," but are in the
>> process of acquiring a property suitable for the use of spiritual
>> retreats, ascetic practice, etc.," Garguillio wrote.
>
>> In order to best support the sites, he said, that building will be in
>> the Dundalk or Highlandtown area.
>
>> Promotions are primarily through press releases from the North
>> American Old Catholic Church, word of mouth and integration into the
>> newsletter for St. Peter, Garguillio said.
>
>> "We're honored to have you," the Rev. Robert M. Harvey of St. Peter
>> said to Garguillio at St. Andrew's first liturgy last weekend.
>
>> The 3 p.m. liturgy at St. Andrew will be held every Sunday.
>
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