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5min or 3min Safety Stop ?         


Author: Hi-Soft
Date: May 11, 2008 06:06

Why do we (here in Australia) have a 5 minute safety stop as opposed to the
3 minutes that other countries have ?

bc
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Re: 5min or 3min Safety Stop ?         


Author: dechucka
Date: May 11, 2008 16:14

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> Why do we (here in Australia) have a 5 minute safety stop as opposed to
> the 3 minutes that other countries have ?

When I first started diving it used to be 2-3min at 3ms for dives over 10
ms. I believe the change to 5m on the SS stop was that it was an easier
depth to maintain don't know why the time was changed maybe to compensate
for the slightly extra depth although a lot of the articles you can read
suggest 3-5 minutes. Maybe the 5min came around because boat and tour
operators where being on the conservative side. PADI I believe recommends 15
foot and a 3min+. I always do 5 at 5 except if it is a shore with a gradual
slope up to the egress point.
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Re: 5min or 3min Safety Stop ?         


Author: Don Gingrich
Date: May 11, 2008 17:27

Hi-Soft wrote:
>
> Why do we (here in Australia) have a 5 minute safety stop as opposed
> to the 3 minutes that other countries have ?

The short answer is, "if 3 minutes is good the 5 minutes is better."

The longer answer is:

1) A 3 minute stop probably is "good enough" provided that you
actually hold a depth of 5-6 metres and don't get above 4.5
metres at any time on the stop

2) A lot of beginners that I have observed really don't hold
their depth on the stop very well
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Re: 5min or 3min Safety Stop ?         


Author: dechucka
Date: May 11, 2008 17:48

"Don Gingrich" gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi-Soft wrote:
>
>>
>> Why do we (here in Australia) have a 5 minute safety stop as opposed
>> to the 3 minutes that other countries have ?
>
> The short answer is, "if 3 minutes is good the 5 minutes is better."
>
> The longer answer is:
>
> 1) A 3 minute stop probably is "good enough" provided that you
> actually hold a depth of 5-6 metres and don't get above 4.5
> metres at any time on the stop
>
> 2) A lot of beginners that I have observed really don't hold
> their depth on the stop very well
>
> 3) the more time that you spend at around 5 metres at the end ...
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Re: 5min or 3min Safety Stop ?         


Author: Hi-Soft
Date: May 11, 2008 21:51

O.K. that all makes sense..so thanks..

on a slightly different note...If I do a sure dive (Portsea Pier) is all
that erelevant...seeing that it's only a max depth of around 5 meters(
correct me if I'm wrong )..? My dive tables tell me it's a ND limit of about
4.5 hours at that shallow...

Also, what about if I surface a few times during this dive..? I plan on
doing a pier dive with a few buddies, just to get our new gear / weight all
sorted...

bc

cheers,
Hi-Soft
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> "Don Gingrich" gmail.com> wrote in message...
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Re: 5min or 3min Safety Stop ?         


Author: dechucka
Date: May 11, 2008 23:38

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>
> O.K. that all makes sense..so thanks..
>
> on a slightly different note...If I do a sure dive (Portsea Pier) is all
> that erelevant...seeing that it's only a max depth of around 5 meters(
> correct me if I'm wrong )..? My dive tables tell me it's a ND limit of
> about 4.5 hours at that shallow...
>
> Also, what about if I surface a few times during this dive..? I plan on
> doing a pier dive with a few buddies, just to get our new gear / weight
> all sorted...
>
> bc
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Re: 5min or 3min Safety Stop ?         


Author: Don Gingrich
Date: May 12, 2008 03:53

Hi-Soft wrote:
>
>
> O.K. that all makes sense..so thanks..

No worries, glad to assist. And if aus.sport.scuba can avoid
some of the acrimony I see in rec.scuba, the it's all to the good.
>
> on a slightly different note...If I do a sure dive (Portsea Pier) is
> all that erelevant...seeing that it's only a max depth of around 5
> meters( correct me if I'm wrong )..? My dive tables tell me it's a
> ND limit of about 4.5 hours at that shallow...
>
> Also, what about if I surface a few times during this dive..? I
> plan on
> doing a pier dive with a few buddies, just to get our new gear /
> weight all sorted...

My suggestion, take it for what it's worth is to get under the pier
with a nearly empty cylinder, and empty your BCD. Then start removing
weight in small increments until you can fin pivot with no gas...
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Re: 5min or 3min Safety Stop ?         


Author: Hi-Soft
Date: May 12, 2008 18:24

Thanks again Don ( and all ), for your invaluable advice ;)

cheers,
Hi-Soft
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>> O.K. that all makes sense..so thanks.....
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