Steven wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>>
>> There seems to be two Australia s:
>>
>> The Usenet fairyland and the Real Australia
>>
>> In the real world, PM Rudd is soaring in popularity,
>> random sample surveys show he is more popular than
>> any other politician in history, except for the
>> Bob Hawke at his peak, before he became Lothario in
>> terry toweling and lost the womens vote. (People loved
>> Hazel more than Bob the bodgie)
>>
>> But in the strange fantasyland of Usenet, the usual suspects,
>> the lonely unemployed with all day to waste, the social
>> misfits and moral defectives, the racists, bigots and
>> anti-semites of all descriptions, wail and rail that the ALP
>> is doing no more than the Libs to keep prices down on petrol,
>> that they feel betrayed and that it will all end badly. B^)
>
> Me thinks your showing your true colours now.
> A labor man disconected to those doing tough?
I described the barking dogs of Usenet, a pathetic
rabble numbering less than a dozen, not including you. B^D
You snipped just enough to make that no longer clear.
the context shows I compared those tiny band of whining
tory tossers with the Country at large, which includes the
workers and the unemployed .. the millions who supported the
ALP and the smaller number who didn't.
Referring to a small number of those Usenet stooges
as "the lonely unemployed with all day to waste" is
a perfectly accurate way to explain how those racist bigots
post their bile ALL DAY... it is NOT referring to
the mass of unemployed outside Usenet!
So, Your point?
Are you claiming that some racist shitpig, or self
confessed paedophile like Chris Textor should be
treated lightly because he is unemployable,
friendless and doing it tough? Fuck that! B^D
> No labor man at all.
Have we been introduced? Just which sockpuppet are you?
Is there a register of 'labor men' somewhere that
we should be aware of? and you are it's note keeper?
Or are you just one more of the tools who snip the
context, cast some irrelevant aspersions and avoid the
issues? ...a SNOW machine?
There are so many who claim I'm this or that..
usually while declaring I'm 'irrelevant' B^D
Some claim I am talking to myself, posting in threads of mine
where it is all they have to say, as they show themselves
incapable of addressing the thread topic..
You could be Hunter, trying not to admit that the first thing
he reads and comments on are my posts, but always making a
personal attack, not debating the issue! B^D
> Not a true labor man.
Post a photo and I'll tell you if I look like one! B^D
Light on the Hill? Sure.
Keating the Musical? Great show!
A Fair Go for ALL! Settle for nothing less, comrades!
"We swear by the Southern Cross...." - Eureka was our first
multicultural mass movement!
union member? when it was appropriate. As a consultant and manager
in IT, in mid life, and subsequently a company director, it wasn't.
But then, if Rudd can marry a commercial success i can be one! B^D
Nothing wrong with French clocks and nice suits, brother, ask Paul!
Now I'm semi-retired, I'm in a union again, but they aren't
what they used to be, globalization means they will be largely
irrelevant unless they become international.
I have a farm, does that make me a cocky?
I own shares and invested in gold, that makes me a capitalist! B^D
Interested in working class bloodlines? ...not one bit! B^p
Fuck the Maoists with their notions that only the 'true
proletariat' are to be trusted. I happen to like intellectuals,
they are workers whose main tool is their brain.
Mark Addinall, Dave Moss.. decent men, who have different
political views to mine, I like them much more than doctrinaire
party tools of any party. I hate dogma no matter if it's
coming from a tory think tank or some factional union tool.
ALP party member? nah, they invited me to write for them once
but I'm a not a joiner.
I agree with Marx that man's nature is expressed through his
creative efforts, his work! I also agree with the Quakers that
work is prayer. I like paradox and am not uncomfortable with nuance.
I'm just not interested in labels, but I am committed to unity,
to solidarity and to freedom. now ..if only I liked people! B^D
> Surely?
Fair Dinkum, Cobra.. I mean Cobber, ...
er maybe I was right the first time.
Let me introduce you to my Da'
because as Lennon, not Lenin, said
"A working class man is something to be.."
When my dad used to watch footy he didn't barrack
like the other blokes, for one team to win.. he loved
the game.. didn't matter which team the player came from,
he was watching for the elegant mark, the quick pass..
He told a story of when he was a young apprentice
and dared to refuse a second beer in a pub... 8^o
the other fitters were ragging him when the foreman
told them 'leave the lad alone, if he doesn't want a beer
that's the end of it'
So, don't try to spend so much time trying to figure out
where people 'fit in', 'real men' may not be trying to! B^D
Judge by what they do, not by what they say about themselves
and
"play the ball, sport.. not the man":
>> We could just ignore them, they are a far less significant
>> demographic than the talk-back mob.
>> (And the tory media, in it's relentless pursuit will probably
>> do more to besmirch the governments reputation).
>>
>> But I prefer to rub their noses in their defeat and
>> their ongoing political impotence. ;-)
>>
>> People who listen to the news know that petrol prices
>> rise because international oil prices have.
>>
>> They lived through 11 interest rate rises under Howard and
>> know that it will take more than six months to turn around
>> a problem the tories did NOTHING to stop, everything to
>> make worse, and now only offer more of the same.. FALSE
>> PROMISES: "We will keep interest rates at record lows"
>>
>> Rudd was careful not to make false promises he couldn't keep.
>>
>> Government can NOT fix everything, although tory socialists
>> spent a lot of taxpayer money ensuring that people like
>> Lachlan and Sarah Murdoch could afford a baby and a new home!
>>
>> As the economic problems of inflation, massive debt, rising
>> oil prices and the sub-prime crisis worsened, the ALP might
>> have preferred to keep the tax cuts, and take more pressure
>> off inflation, but they kept their PROMISE, while Howard and
>> Costello never did!
>>
>>
>> The Australian people know this, and they have rewarded honesty
>> by pushing Rudd's popularity to soaring heights, and the ALP
>> has gone UP and the Liberal party DOWN, under their respective
>> leaders.
>>
>> That is the reality. The voters are at least 6(%% smarter than
>> the over-represented tory tools in usenet).
>>
>> Thats why i rarely reply when they retreat into a huddle to lick
>> each other's wounds and tool-fondle, whining 'fasgnadh is just a ..',
>> "I agree" "me too" .. because, hey.. I'm the MAJORITY.. B^)
>>
>> I'm one of the WINNERS! B^D
>>
>> I deal with the issues, realistically, and have the track record of
>> not just COMMENTING on issues but PREDICTING OUTCOMES.
>>
>> There are about a handful of us in Usenet who can say that!
>>
>> Those who were right about Iraq. Those who were right about the
>> election, Those who opposed the Taliban BEFORE S11, those who
>> campaigned about Peak oil being more important than Climate Change!
>> Those who have opposed anti-semites consistently, and yet still
>> been unafraid to criticise Israel, because they know the difference!
>>
>> And all the whining, lying, apoplectic rage spluttering,
>> posturing, populist nostrums and spin will not help the Lieberals.
>>
>> They have a problem with their brand.
>>
>> Howard caused it with the Lies he began during the Iraq war and
>> the Tampa crisis, and all the divisions he tried to create
>> to cling onto POWER - divide et Empera!
>>
>>
>> Nelson really isn't helping. They should swap him sooner than
>> planned for a new start.
