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Australian Scientific method gone to church to find it's spiritual side with the web standards group WSG         


Author: James
Date: Jun 4, 2007 07:13

Academic bias, dodgy commercially orientated researh and a nasty list
moderators on the Web Standards Group.

In research about internet site accessibility, an Australian University
group selling courses for $495 a head for one day training sessions,
WANAU have been getting away with a gross misrepresentation based on
dodgy research claiming that 98%% of Australian sites are inaccessible.

New unfunded research by hereticpress.com reported that 64%% of
Australian University sites are accessible. A WANAU supporter with an
incompatible religious view of science suggested that as WANAU did not
commission the research they are entitled to ignore the results. On this
reasoning Galileo's research should be ignored and the Church can retain
the view that the sun orbits the earth, because they did not commission
the research.

A 600Kb file, hundreds of unpaid hours work, ignored by many so called
Australian academics and comdemned by the Web Standards Group as not
being "nice". The funded research by Alexander and WANAU has a bias
towards promoting a business plan.

http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustUni.html#research
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Re: Australian Scientific method gone to church to find it's spiritual side with the web standards group WSG         


Author: Don H
Date: Jun 4, 2007 16:23

"James" hereticpress.com> wrote in message
news:46641E1E.2030009@hereticpress.com...
> Academic bias, dodgy commercially orientated researh and a nasty list
> moderators on the Web Standards Group.
>
> In research about internet site accessibility, an Australian University
> group selling courses for $495 a head for one day training sessions,
> WANAU have been getting away with a gross misrepresentation based on
> dodgy research claiming that 98%% of Australian sites are inaccessible.
>
> New unfunded research by hereticpress.com reported that 64%% of
> Australian University sites are accessible. A WANAU supporter with an
> incompatible religious view of science suggested that as WANAU did not
> commission the research they are entitled to ignore the results. On this
> reasoning Galileo's research should be ignored and the Church can retain
> the view that the sun orbits the earth, because they did not commission
> the research.
>
> A 600Kb file, hundreds of unpaid hours work, ignored by many so called
> Australian academics and comdemned by the Web Standards Group as not ...
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Re: Australian Scientific method gone to church to find it's spiritual side with the web standards group WSG         


Author: David Moss
Date: Jun 4, 2007 16:43

In article <46641E1E.2030009@hereticpress.com>, james07@hereticpress.com
writes...
> Standards are very low at some Australian Universities, and the low
> standard is supported by a supposedly technology orientated group the
> web standards group. The WSG moderator suspended the author's membership
> in a very nasty fashion without any objective evaluation of the quality
> of the research, stating that people like Tim were doing more harm than
> good.

If this is an example, they were probably correct to do so.

Lets take a look at this one paragraph to see why.

"Standards are very low at some Australian Universities"

Well, dur!
When you plot any spread of variables where there is variation you will
find some at one end of the spread and some at the other.

If you are going to make a meaningful, rather than an insulting
statement you have to put it in proper context. You also have to use
appropriate, non-judgemental language.
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Re: Australian Scientific method gone to church to find it's spiritual side with the web standards group WSG         


Author: Addinall
Date: Aug 11, 2007 23:36

"Tim" optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:46762F31.7000102@optushome.com.au...
> What is the difference between billboards and the web? The 1992 Disability
> Discrimination Act applies to websites following Maguire v SOCOG. Website
> accessibility relates to ramps on buildings for disabled wheelchair access
> and importantly for commercial organisations to Search Engine
> Optimisation, with valid code robots can easily index all your sites
> content. Your page only has minor html errors nothimg to stop a search
> engine, but it will fail every accessibility test.
>
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%%3A%%2F%%2Fwww.fcq.com.au%%2F
>
> I can see from your text size options on www.fcq.com.au that you are
> serious about accessibility, well done, but try not to shoot the messenger
> (Duh:-) who exposes errors in major University homepages, they should know
> better. The only Australian site to embed a flash file in the homepage was
> Bond University and it is totally inaccessible to a blind person using
> only a keyboard to navigate a site without Javascript and the Macromedia
> plugin for Flash files.
> ...
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Re: Australian Scientific method gone to church to find it's spiritual side with the web standards group WSG         


Author: David Moss
Date: Aug 12, 2007 03:11

In article <46beaa17$0$22610$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, addinall@addinall.org writes...
>
> "Tim" optushome.com.au> wrote in message
> news:46762F31.7000102@optushome.com.au...
>> What is the difference between billboards and the web? The 1992 Disability
>> Discrimination...
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Re: Australian Scientific method gone to church to find it's spiritual side with the web standards group WSG         


Author: James
Date: Aug 25, 2007 22:28

David Moss wrote:
> In article <46beaa17$0$22610$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
> 01.iinet.net.au>, addinall@addinall.org writes...
>
>
>>"Tim" optushome.com.au> wrote in message
>>news:46762F31.7000102@optushome.com.au...
>>
>>>What is the difference between billboards and the web? The 1992 Disability
>>>Discrimination Act applies to websites following Maguire v SOCOG. Website
>>>accessibility relates to ramps on buildings for disabled wheelchair access
>>>and importantly for commercial organisations to Search Engine
>>>Optimisation, with valid code robots can easily index all your sites
>>>content. Your page only has minor html errors nothimg to stop a search
>>>engine, but it will fail every accessibility test.
>>>
>>>http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%%3A%%2F%%2Fwww.fcq.com.au%%2F
>>>
>>>I can see from your text size options on www.fcq.com.au that you are
>>>serious about accessibility, well done, but try not to shoot the messenger ...
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Re: Australian Scientific method gone to church to find it's spiritual side with the web standards group WSG         


Author: James
Date: Aug 25, 2007 22:31

Addinall wrote:
> "Tim" optushome.com.au> wrote in message
> news:46762F31.7000102@optushome.com.au...
>
>>What is the difference between billboards and the web? The 1992 Disability
>>Discrimination Act applies to websites following Maguire v SOCOG. Website
>>accessibility relates to ramps on buildings for disabled wheelchair access
>>and importantly for commercial organisations to Search Engine
>>Optimisation, with valid code robots can easily index all your sites
>>content. Your page only has minor html errors nothimg to stop a search
>>engine, but it will fail every accessibility test.
>>
>>http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%%3A%%2F%%2Fwww.fcq.com.au%%2F
>>
>>I can see from your text size options on www.fcq.com.au that you are
>>serious about accessibility, well done, but try not to shoot the messenger
>>(Duh:-) who exposes errors in major University homepages, they should know
>>better. The only Australian site to embed a flash file in the homepage was
>>Bond University and it is totally inaccessible to a blind person using
>>only a keyboard to navigate a site without Javascript and the Macromedia ...
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