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Group: aus.general · Group Profile
Author: kangarooistan
Date: Jan 18, 2007 13:49

Theo Bekkers wrote:
> swa@ozemail.com.au wrote:
>> Theo Bekkers wrote:
>
>> Christian preachers who teach hate are not following
>> the precepts that Jesus taught.
>
>> As for the Muslim clerics, when they choose to live and work
>> in a country that has a Christian heritage and majority
>> they should study about the two faiths,
>> in depth.
.
Guarantee more muslims read the bible than christians read the muslims
holy book

Most christians simply dont know what the bible says

There would not be such a discussion if christians read their bible ,
they would be muslims

www.evilbible.com

.

The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible,
especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people
be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay,
cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In
addition to these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples
of God's irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons
that defy any rational explanation such as killing children who make
fun of bald people, and the killing of a man who tried to keep the ark
of God from falling during transport. There are also countless
examples of mass murders commanded by God, including the murder of
women, infants, and children.

The following passages are a very small percentage of the total
passages approving of murder in the Bible. They are divided here into
three parts: 1) Capital Punishment Crimes, 2) God's Murders for Stupid
Reasons, 3) Murdering Children, and 4) Miscellaneous Murders. This
list is long, but it barely scratches the surface of all the murders
approved of in the Bible.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1) Capital Punishment Crimes:

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the
priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such
evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be
put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their
lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put
to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their
death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.
(Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents

1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the
coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They
are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and
the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication
and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.
(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be
doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their
fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek
the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or
great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall
say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the
name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother,
shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving
you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you
must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove
that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that
town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the
livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the
street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt
offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever;
it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set
apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger
and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a
great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD
your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the
commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."
(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding
night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall
bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her
townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime
against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall
you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your
beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve
other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other
nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the
other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon
him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the
first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with
you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you
astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of
Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall
fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy
13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the
LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD
your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by
worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I
have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the
matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been
done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of
the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father
got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this
son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was
brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She
was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in
custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then
the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell
all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the
entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel:
Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and
be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to
death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner
among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus
24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets

1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams
about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the
predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say,
'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to
them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all
your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone.
Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false
prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death,
for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you
out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from
following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil
from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or
who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How
will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the
prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen,
the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own
and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die

So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their
hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with
each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth
about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped
the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised
forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful
desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and
instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of
having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for
each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result,
suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When
they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds
and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became
full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder,
fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are
backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are
forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their
parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are
heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty
for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them
anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.
(Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle

For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the
census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites.
You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant,
along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the
Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it
and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will
take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the
Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the
people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of
the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that
I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it
is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that
day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the
seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD
considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to
death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2) God's Murders for Stupid Reasons:

Kill Brats

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some
small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead,"
they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and
he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of
the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings
2:23-24 NAB)

God Kills the Curious

And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked
into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and'
fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten
the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said,
Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall
he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)

Killed by a Lion

Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say
to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the
prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the
voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And
sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1
Kings 20:35-36 NLT)

Killing the Good Samaritan

The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the
house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided
the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the
Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with
singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.

When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out
his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it
tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot,
and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)

The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible,
especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people
be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay,
cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In
addition to these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples
of God's irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons
that defy any rational explanation such as killing children who make
fun of bald people, and the killing of a man who tried to keep the ark
of God from falling during transport. There are also countless
examples of mass murders commanded by God, including the murder of
women, infants, and children.

The following passages are a very small percentage of the total
passages approving of murder in the Bible. They are divided here into
three parts: 1) Capital Punishment Crimes, 2) God's Murders for Stupid
Reasons, 3) Murdering Children, and 4) Miscellaneous Murders. This
list is long, but it barely scratches the surface of all the murders
approved of in the Bible.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1) Capital Punishment Crimes:

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the
priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such
evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be
put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their
lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put
to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their
death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.
(Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents

1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the
coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They
are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and
the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication
and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.
(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be
doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their
fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek
the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or
great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall
say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the
name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother,
shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving
you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you
must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove
that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that
town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the
livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the
street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt
offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever;
it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set
apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger
and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a
great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD
your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the
commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."
(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding
night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall
bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her
townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime
against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall
you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your
beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve
other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other
nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the
other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon
him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the
first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with
you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you
astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of
Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall
fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy
13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the
LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD
your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by
worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I
have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the
matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been
done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of
the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father
got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this
son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was
brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She
was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in
custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then
the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell
all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the
entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel:
Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and
be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to
death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner
among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus
24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets

1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams
about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the
predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say,
'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to
them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all
your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone.
Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false
prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death,
for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you
out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from
following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil
from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or
who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How
will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the
prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen,
the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own
and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die

So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their
hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with
each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth
about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped
the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised
forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful
desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and
instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of
having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for
each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result,
suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When
they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds
and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became
full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder,
fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are
backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are
forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their
parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are
heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty
for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them
anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.
(Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle

For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the
census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites.
You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant,
along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the
Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it
and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will
take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the
Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the
people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of
the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that
I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it
is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that
day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the
seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD
considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to
death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2) God's Murders for Stupid Reasons:

Kill Brats

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some
small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead,"
they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and
he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of
the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings
2:23-24 NAB)

God Kills the Curious

And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked
into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and'
fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten
the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said,
Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall
he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)

Killed by a Lion

Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say
to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the
prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the
voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And
sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1
Kings 20:35-36 NLT)

Killing the Good Samaritan

The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the
house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided
the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the
Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with
singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.

When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out
his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it
tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot,
and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)
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