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Re: --- Christian bodies fear charter of rights         

Group: aus.education · Group Profile
Author: lonelyWAconservative
Date: Apr 16, 2008 02:31

On Apr 15, 9:46 pm, dolf hotmail.com> wrote:
> According to the Australian of 16 April 2008 [SUPER: #366 / #77 -
> Natural Guide/ Heaven's Reason; I-Ching: H12 - Stagnation; Tetra: #57
> - Guardedness / EGO: #408 / #81 - Making the Essence Clear/
> Propounding the Essential; I-Ching: H11 - Peace; Tetra: #15 - Reach]
> "Australia's peak christian lobby group has joined the growing debate
> about a charter of rights, saying it could be used to deprive
> religious schools of the right to hire believers.
>
> Australian Christian Lobby managing director Jim Wallace said his
> organisation was concerned that the push for a charter could see
> exemptions in some of the state's equal opportunity laws to be
> overridden."
>
> Mr Wallace said the push for a charter had provoked angst within the
> religious community, which felt it represented a threat to the
> autonomy of all religious organsations, not just Christian ones."
>
> For example Section 77 of the Equal Opportunity Act No 42/1995,
> enables a Church to discriminate against another person "if the
> discrimination is necessary for the first person to comply with the
> person's genuine religious beliefs or principles."
>
> However, as we will see with respect to the American originating
> Seventh-day Adventist--there is with respect to the Sabbath and basis
> for their organizational name, nothing genuine about their religious
> beliefs--and in the instance of hymeneal (marriage) based aspirational
> obscurant fideism, cannot be said to apply where the Church has
> sanctioned by inaction never apologized and provided restitution for
> past child sexual abuse perpetuated by its membership--as is the case
> with the Mormon Church and Jehovah's Witnesses as also being the
> product of American Religious fanaticism.
>
> I raised previously in the consideration of the reasons why Quentin
> Bryce, the next governor-general is wrong on Australians Role in the
> Republic, by saying that it a matter which is up to the people.  That
> the AUTONOMIC RIGHT of the PEOPLE under the COMMONWEALTH is
> established by SECTION 8 of the Letters Patent enabling the Australian
> Constitution of 1901--which is implied by the requirement of an
> obligation placed upon every Australian to be 'obedient, aiding and
> assisting' unto OUR said Governor General.
>
> VIII - And We do hereby require and command all Our Officers and
> Ministers, Civil and Military, and all other the inhabitants of Our
> said Commonwealth to be obedient, aiding, and assisting unto Our said
> Governor General, or, in the event of his death, incapacity, or
> absence, to such person or persons as may, from time to time, under
> the provisions of these Our Letters Patent, adminster the Government
> of Our said Commonwealth.
>
> Furthermore, I conveyed that the autonomic right of Australians as the
> basis for becoming a Republic is conveyed by Section 9 of the Letters
> Patent which reserves the right to amend this document which lays
> claim to the possession of Australia as Commonwealth and her
> governance to the Sovereign:
>
> IX - And We do hereby reserve to Ourselves Our heirs and successors,
> full power and authority from time to time to revoke, alter, or amend
> these Our Letters Patent, as to Us or them shall seem meet.
>
> And that the historical claim to this Sovereignty must be seen in its
> context of being associated to and having origins in the Imperial /
> Religious Roman cult as a history contemporaneous to the autonomic
> transformative prototype as HETEROS symbolic perspective of number--
> that marriage has been understood as emulating this Sovereign function
> such as illustrated by the Biblical references to the Greek notion of
> Zeus and by ipso facto Hera--That it is effected by a transformative
> function enacted by an institutional 3rd party rather than by act of
> nature (ie. copulation) and therefore sub-ordinate to 7th day
> Sabbatarian perspectives of nature as claims to Judaeo-Christian
> Identity: As the Epistle to the Romans says, "To the Jew first and
> also to the Greek".
>
> The date of Wednesday 20 March / 21 March = 1 Nisan is historically
> understood in relation to the Torah's GENESIS CREATION NARRATIVE AND
> BOOKS OF THE LAW and the PROPHETS as being a perspective of the Hebrew
> letters and articulation of the HRUMACHIS cycle {ie. this name is
> implied by HORUS OF THE TWO HORIZONS as HARMAKHIS: "The Son of man is
> Lord even of the Sabbath (which was made for man)." [Matthew 12:8;
> Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5; Luke 13:15]} which commences from the date of the
> Equinox of Wednesday 20 March and constitutes the zero point for the
> following base-7 chronology:
>
> D = 364 x 6 or 2184 days, W = 6D x 7, J = 6D x 49 = 107016 days as 294
> years x 364 or 293 years x 365.2425
>
> There is some considerable conjecture amongst Biblical Scholars as to
> the internal mechanics of the seventy weeks Messianic prophecy given
> by Daniel and whether this cryptic computation is made according to
> the 364 day Temple chronology or to the length of the topical year as
> understood by the Babylonians--all we know from the historical record
> is its probable commencement and termination point: "Seventy weeks are
> determined for your people and for your holy city, to finish the
> transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for
> iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up [the]
> vision and prophecy, and to annoint the Most Holy.
>
> 72J2W1D [457 BCE] + 70 weeks as 490 x 364 / 365.2425 years = 31 (1/3)
> CE
>
> 72J2W1D [457 BCE] + 490 x 365.2425 years = 33 CE
>
> Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the
> command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there
> shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; the street shall be built
> again, and the wall, even in troublesome times. And after the sixty-
> two weeks [the] Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; and the
> people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the
> sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, and till the end of
> the war desolations are determined." [Daniel 9:24-27]
>
> The fact remains that the new era Christian literature as four Gospels
> and the Apostle Paul's various Epistles were all written before the
> destruction the Jerusalem Temple by the Romans in 69 CE and that they
> were cognizant of this 364 Temple based chronology--And because the
> SABBATH WAS MADE FOR MAN RATHER THAN MAN FOR THE SABBATH--the
> transcendent notion of the 7th day as the basis for Judaeo-Christian
> religious belief--can in no way be antagonistic to the Autonomic Right
> of a 'right of humanity in his own person' as the reasonable desire,
> moral responsibility and duty accorded to democratic regulative free-
> will.  That this Autonomic Right is pre-requisite to any presence,
> participation and procreation as marriage right and duties within the
> Commonwealth of Australia.
>
> The consideration that religious belief, thought and conscience as an
> autonomous {ie. autos / one's true self, the soul + nomos / Torah}
> values expression consistently understood by Seventh-day Adventists as
> Christian community of faith, being established upon the transcendent
> and chronological principle of Nature known as the 7th day Sabbath of
> the Decalogue, are somehow antagonistic to the natural, regulative and
> metempirical principles of good governance as 'certain powers,
> functions, and authorities' declared to be vested within 'the office
> of Governor General and Commander in chief over Our said Commonwealth
> of Australia', may be considered absurd. Historically within
> Australia, there was not opposition to the inclusion of a specific
> religious clause as expression of liberty that was adopted as Section
> 116 of the Australian Constitution of 1901 as the foundational
> document conveying the Principles of Natural and Regulative Philosophy
> articulated by the Letters Patent to said Australian Constitution of
> 1901:
>
> Section 116 of the Australian Constitution says "The Commonwealth
> shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing
> any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any
> religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification
> for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth"
>
> That I have argued the justification of Australia's transition from a
> Constitutional Monarchy to a Republic with a corresponding bill of
> rights entirely on the philosophical basis of the 7th day having a
> cosmological correspondence and the mathematic basis by which the
> GRAPPLE HOMOIOTIC NOUMENON as AUTONOMIC ENNEAD can be deployed as the
> semantical engine for hosting a religious belief systems.
>
> That as this is empirically validated by geodesic eclipse, there is
> nothing any body has to do beyond coercing the Sovereign to invalidate
> by 'revoking, altering or amending' the Letters Patent, as shall seem
> meet.
>
> This paradigm of mind related to the permanent principle underlying
> temporal things, has in relation to the Logos as Infinity, a logical
> grounding in chronology for which I observe the Sabbath.  But as this
> paradigm also provides the categories of understanding for the
> temporal and non-temporal sphere which are equated with the Hebrew
> language and any other language sustained by milisian ordinals, I
> therefore do not subscribe to any religion which has a creed as a
> human construct created as a semantical world of discourse--because it
> is sub-ordinate to my own transcendent, metempirical and metaphyscial
> philosophical and religious belief.
>
> That the possessional discovery of Australia can be viewed in terms of
> this historical context due to a failure of that Imperial / Religious
> governance as encapsulated in the Gregorian Calendar Reforms of 1582
> which were adopted by the British Empire much later in 1751/1752.
>
> That this possessional discovery and claim of Australia as a continent
> is made as a formula of progression associated with cosmological
> advance related to the Astronomical Unit and a determination of the
> topical year relating to the planet Earth and also Captain Cook's
> usage of a flat board to advance map making...
>
> http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/nous.gif
>
> Captain James Cook (1728-1779 CE) ...
>
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Your calling Mormonism a product of "American religious fanaticism" is
so ignorant, it's pathetic. And who are YOU to call Seventh Day
Adventist's beliefs not "genuine"??? Also,your rant against the
Catholic Church is absolutely incoherent. And speaking so dismissively
about Americans just BECAUSE they are Americans is ridiculous, too.
Americans are no more like each other than Australians are, and so
generalizing about them is SILLY. And STUPID.
Try finding out a little bit more about the groups you hate, and THEN
criticize, from a position of KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
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