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  Re: ajax workers headed to holden         


Author:
Date: Dec 6, 2006 16:02

"Marco" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> Exactly. If Ajax knew or didn't think they could meet the terms of the
> deal, why would they have signed up for it?

Because they had no choice.

Shutting the doors is a very hard thing to do. Especially if there's a
*slight* chance that you can work around it.
> They would have been mad
> to sign up for a deal that would have seen them losing even more money.

Probably, but it's the same reason why people continue to pour money into
poker machines after they've already lost a shitload: They pray that the
short term madness might provide the oportunity for some magical event to
save them.

Once people have lots a fortune, the potential to lose a little more doesn't
mean much compared to the chance of winning it all back.
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  Re: ajax workers headed to holden         


Author:
Date: Dec 6, 2006 15:49

"Marco" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> I have to say that I'm not all that bothered if nuts, bolts and
> fasteners come from China rather than a factory in Melbourne, as they
> really are the sort of thing this country can't make cheaply enough
> anymore. As always, the best allocation of resources is to make the
> things you are good at (ie, things that you have an absolute or
> comparitive advantage in), and get someone else to make the things
> you're not good at.

I agree, although I'd add that to most car makers price certainly goes a
long way in detirmining what they're "good" at.

Local component manufacturing has been dwindling for years, and the imported
parts content of locally made cars is now higher than it's ever been and
will continue to rise as the manufacturers strive to find ever cheaper
sources for their components. This is partly market driven, with the public
demending more and more crap in each new model without wanting to pay a lot
for it, and the manufacturer's ever increasing need for profit to help cover
the *massive* costs of putting out each new model.
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  Re: Drink Driving question ( How Much )         


Author: Poxy
Date: Dec 6, 2006 15:25

"Patrick" bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:1165444130.53658@login-host.silverbrookresearch.com...
> Poxy wrote:
>> "Patrick" bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165389085.857566@login-host.silverbrookresearch.com...
>>> David wrote:
>>>> If I drink 2 glasses of wine in a 3 hour period will that put me over
>> the
>>>> legal limit ?
>>>>
>>>> I know with beer its 2 in the first hours, then one every hour to keep
>> safe,
>>>> but what about wine ??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> In theory, the different sized glasses should keep the total amount of
>>> alcohol the same.
>>> ...
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  Re: ajax workers headed to holden         


Author: Michael C
Date: Dec 6, 2006 15:17

"Clockmeister" andwhy.com> wrote in message
news:12ndlcrlstl1kcc@corp.supernews.com...
> It was no charity, it was just buying time until Holden could source
> another supplier. Holden and Ford screwed Ajax over by demanding lower and
> lower costing parts until they were supplying at a loss. Then when Ajax
> were about to fold Holden kicked in some cash to keep them afloat until
> they could source another supplier to keep production running.
>
> It was always only about Holden, not about Ajax.

What are you expecting holden to do, pay higher than they could get
elsewhere? It seems you're blaming holden here because they didn't give Ajax
charity and then when they do at the end they are still...
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  Re: WOW new Porsche's from $94,700!!         


Author: Patrick
Date: Dec 6, 2006 14:39

Noddy wrote:
> hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165370376.732657.122930@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>> My favourite comment on the Cayenne was a writer commenting that as the
>> world's fastest SUV, it was the answer to a question that nobody had
>> asked...
>
> Just goes to show that even the most "respected" manufacturers are not above
> cashing in on a market segment full of naive punters.
>

Actually I've recently encountered exactly this question being asked.
Husband says "I want a sports car like a Porsche." Wife says "We need a
big 4wd to carry lots of stuff. Can't you find something that is both?"

So now we know the question. I think the Cayenne is the wrong answer.
Maybe an XR6 turbo Ute is a better choice?
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  Re: Motocycling Idiots driving around with fog lights on WHEN THERE'S NO FOG         


Author: Theo Bekkers
Date: Dec 6, 2006 14:26

tomorrow@erols.com wrote:

.> Besides that, I am trustworthy, honest, and brave; but above all, I am
> humble. I may be the most humble person I've ever met.

Nah, I'm more humble than you.

Theo
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  Re: Motocycling Idiots driving around with fog lights on WHEN THERE'S NO FOG         


Author: Theo Bekkers
Date: Dec 6, 2006 14:24

Toosmoky wrote:
> "RainbowWarrior" pizza.com.nz> wrote in message>
>
>> Keep roling dice temporary one
>
> How old do you have to become before you're no longer "temporary"?...

As old as Johno.

Theo
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  Re: Motocycling Idiots driving around with fog lights on WHEN THERE'S NO FOG         


Author: Theo Bekkers
Date: Dec 6, 2006 14:22

GB wrote:
> GB, I head-check all the time when driving my car, but I never claim
> to be able to see what's in my blind spots.

Well, they wouldn't be blind spots if you could see in them, would they?

Theo
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  Re: Motocycling Idiots driving around with fog lights on WHEN THERE'S NO FOG         


Author: Neil Fisher
Date: Dec 6, 2006 14:14

On 6 Dec 2006 11:45:31 -0800, "tomorrow@erols.com"
erols.com>, after considering some belly-button fluf, wrote:

[...]
>Besides that, I am trustworthy, honest, and brave; but above all, I am
>humble. I may be the most humble person I've ever met.
>

You forgot good looking and modest! ;-)

Neil
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  Re: Stupid Hoon law         


Author:
Date: Dec 6, 2006 14:03

"reg-john" fddfd.com> wrote in message
news:_gDdh.3623$HU.3366@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> so you arrest them and give them jailtime or communiuty service. if they
> want to drive that badly, theyll borrow or steal someone else car.

Custodial sentences, yeah, but "community service" is a fucking joke that
needs to be got rid of as soon as possible.

You'd be very hard pressed to find a single person who has ever been
subjected to it who has ever thought of it as anything other than a minor
inconvenience.
> it is someones car, it might not even be the driver in quesiton who owns
> it.

Tough titties.

Unless they can prove that it was taken from it's owner without permission,
the car should be impounded. It's the driver's own stupid fault, and the car
owner's for lending them the vehicle.
> its ridiculous and kneejerk when you can easily just suspend the person in
> quesitons right to drive, or remove points, and failing that charge them
> with other offenses.

All of which have previously shown to have close to zero deterrent value.
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