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Author: NedNed Date: Jun 4, 2008 18:34
Further to Rob's post re fuel costs........
"Wine may get better with age, but airplanes don't. And that's a
problem for US carriers, which operate some of the oldest fleets in
the world. Younger planes are more fuel efficient, which puts US-based
airlines at a huge disadvantage when compared with foreign
competitors.
There's no getting around the fact that the the fleets of US airlines
are on the old side. On average, American Airlines' planes have seen
15 years in the sky, United's 14, and Northwest's 11. Post 9/11, US
airlines had their hands full just trying to stay in business, but
when they finally emerged from that downturn, they called in orders
for hundreds of new jets. Continental and Northwest lined up for
Boeing's sleek and green new 787. US Airways shopped for shiny new
Airbus widebodies to fuel its international expansion, and American
was said to be mulling a replacement for it's rapidly aging MD80
single aisle fleet.
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Author: RobRob Date: Jun 4, 2008 21:06
Ned wrote:
> Further to Rob's post re fuel costs........
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Yes - Its an all over reduction of older aircraft, which must produce a
more profitable company. But no new aircraft on order.
25%% reduction in fleet and with this they are reducing their capacity by
17-18%%. You would have though that new aircraft having, better
efficiency, more seats, etc, would have been an included option.
I did notice the aircraft flying out of HNL,in January, were 737-200
types with ATA, thats old, no wonder they ceased operations in April.
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Date: Jun 5, 2008 04:36
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> I did notice the aircraft flying out of HNL,in January, were 737-200
> types with ATA, thats old, no wonder they ceased operations in April.
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ATA didn't have any 737-200 aircraft.
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Author: RobRob Date: Jun 5, 2008 04:53
Peter Fanelli wrote:
>> I did notice the aircraft flying out of HNL,in January, were 737-200
>> types with ATA, thats old, no wonder they ceased operations in April.
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> ATA didn't have any 737-200 aircraft.
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What were they?
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Date: Jun 5, 2008 09:52
> Peter Fanelli wrote:
>>> I did notice the aircraft flying out of HNL,in January, were 737-200
>>> types with ATA, thats old, no wonder they ceased operations in April.
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>> ATA didn't have any 737-200 aircraft.
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> What were they?
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Beats me, but ATA had L1011's, 757-200/300's and 737-800's.
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Date: Jun 5, 2008 20:41
Peter Fanelli wrote:
>>Peter Fanelli wrote:
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>>>>I did notice the aircraft flying out of HNL,in January, were 737-200
>>>>types with ATA, thats old, no wonder they ceased operations in April.
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>>>ATA didn't have any 737-200 aircraft.
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>>What were they?
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Author: RobRob Date: Jun 6, 2008 05:33
Paul Saccani wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:41:02 +1000, "Rob." mine.com.> wrote:
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>> It was Aloha who had heaps of early 737's both for pax and cargo. Wonder
>> how their getting on with fuel!
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> Pretty good - they shut down on 20 March 2008 due to the fuel prices
> and competition from Go!. The air cargo and services division were
> sold off as Aloha Air Cargo.
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> Aloha airlines itself has been liquidated.
They had a convertible flying at one stage, with the roof down.
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