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Date: Mar 5, 2008 03:16
They don't much around in China
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Hijacker killed after taking Australians hostage in China
10 Australian tourists taken hostage in China have been released.
The Department of Foreign Affairs (DFAT) has confirmed that a hijacker
took 10 Australian tourists hostage in China before police shot and
killed him.
All the Australians are now safe, and are heading to Shanghai tonight
where they will meet Australian Government officials.
A DFAT spokeswoman says the tourists were on a bus in the city of Xi'an
in north-west China, when the man - reportedly carrying explosives -
boarded the tourist bus.
Nine of the hostages were released but a 48-year-old woman from New
South Wales was held.
Chinese police agreed to let the hijacker, Xia Tao, change buses and
head to the airport before shooting and killing him as he approached the
toll station, China's state-run Xinhua news agency reported.
In statement Foreign Affairs Minister Stephen Smith said he was pleased
the situation was resolved so quickly and the hostages were safe.
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Author: Sylvia ElseSylvia Else Date: Mar 5, 2008 13:47
GB wrote:
> Res ausics.net> wrote in news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0803052302430.32594
> @ebfjryy.nhfvpf.arg:>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Rob. wrote:
>>> They don't much around in China
>>> Hijacker killed after taking Australians hostage in China
>> Thats excellent news, one good thing about China is they never muck
>> around, threaten to take a life, and you will have your life taken.
>> I'm all for that! Might make some of the losers of the worlfd take
>> sit up and notice, bout somehow I think I expect too much.
>
> Consistent with Chinese practice, yes. I'm not so sure it's excellent
> news though. One wonders what must have been going on in the poor
> bastard's head, and in his life, that prompted him to take such a
> phenomenal risk in the first place.
>
> You see a quick solution to an apparent problem. I see a fundamental
> disregard for human life and for rule of law.
>
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Author: AvsecAvsec Date: Mar 5, 2008 15:58
Take you back to April 1978 when one Dominic Spranza took a female hostage
at knife point on board a Pan Am B747SP at Sydney Airport with a demand to
be flown to Rome then onto Moscow. After a senior Commonwealth Police
officer was able to grab the female from the would be hijacker, he then
produced a home made bomb and threaten to light the wick.
NSW Police when negotiating with Spranza, were forced to shot him when he
held a lighted match to the wick. He had a further smaller explosive device
in his shirt pocket.
He died later that night in hospital from his injuries
Avsec
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news:47cf14fb$0$4706$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...> GB wrote:
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Author: Sylvia ElseSylvia Else Date: Mar 5, 2008 20:06
Avsec wrote:
> Take you back to April 1978 when one Dominic Spranza took a female hostage
> at knife point on board a Pan Am B747SP at Sydney Airport with a demand to
> be flown to Rome then onto Moscow. After a senior Commonwealth Police
> officer was able to grab the female from the would be hijacker, he then
> produced a home made bomb and threaten to light the wick.
>
> NSW Police when negotiating with Spranza, were forced to shot him when he
> held a lighted match to the wick.
I'm inclined to the view that such people should be taken out at the
earliest opportunity, rather than waiting for situation to become
urgent. Taking them out may not then be possible to achieve.
If people don't want to be shot, they shouldn't make threats about
bombs, whether real or otherwise.
Sylvia.
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Author: SR20GOERSR20GOER Date: Mar 5, 2008 23:16
> Avsec wrote:
>> Take you back to April 1978 when one Dominic Spranza took a female
>> hostage at knife point on board a Pan Am B747SP at Sydney Airport with a
>> demand to be flown to Rome then onto Moscow. After a senior Commonwealth
>> Police officer was able to grab the female from the would be hijacker, he
>> then produced a home made bomb and threaten to light the wick.
>>
>> NSW Police when negotiating with Spranza, were forced to shot him when he
>> held a lighted match to the wick.
>
> I'm inclined to the view that such people should be taken out at the
> earliest opportunity, rather than waiting for situation to become urgent.
> Taking them out may not then be possible to achieve.
>
> If people don't want to be shot, they shouldn't make threats about bombs,
> whether real or otherwise.
>
> Sylvia. ...
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Author: NedNed Date: Mar 5, 2008 23:55
SR20GOER wrote:
>>
>> If people don't want to be shot, they shouldn't make threats about bombs,
>> whether real or otherwise.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> I agree. No matter what the psych background, my concern is for the rights
> of the innocent victim/s.
>
> My philosophy has always been that once you break the law seriously and
> threaten life or limb you have abdicated your civil rights.
>
Which places you fairly and squarely in the Taliban camp -
"The hardline Taliban regime in Afghanistan sought permission yesterday to make
an extraordinary flight to Britain as the hostages held on board a Boeing 727 at
Stansted airport approached a fourth day in captivity.
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Author: SR20GOERSR20GOER Date: Mar 6, 2008 00:36
"Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:fqo81v$8ft$1@aioe.org...> SR20GOER wrote:
>>>
>>> If people don't want to be shot, they shouldn't make threats about
>>> bombs, whether real or otherwise.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>> I agree. No matter what the psych background, my concern is for the
>> rights of the innocent victim/s.
>>
>> My philosophy has always been that once you break the law seriously and
>> threaten life or limb you have abdicated your civil rights.
>>
>
> Which places you fairly and squarely in the Taliban camp -
>
> "The hardline Taliban regime in Afghanistan sought permission yesterday to ...
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Author: Sylvia ElseSylvia Else Date: Mar 6, 2008 01:28
Ned wrote:
> SR20GOER wrote:
>>>
>>> If people don't want to be shot, they shouldn't make threats about
>>> bombs, whether real or otherwise.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>> I agree. No matter what the psych background, my concern is for the
>> rights of the innocent victim/s.
>>
>> My philosophy has always been that once you break the law seriously
>> and threaten life or limb you have abdicated your civil rights.
>>
>
> Which places you fairly and squarely in the Taliban camp -
>
> "The hardline Taliban regime in Afghanistan sought permission yesterday ...
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Author: CoopCoop Date: Mar 6, 2008 02:43
On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:28:24 +1100, Sylvia Else
wrote:
>Ned wrote:
>> SR20GOER wrote:
>
>
>> Are the authorities aware of you being a Taliban sympathiser?
>
>
Well, there *is* the desire to deal out summary capital punishment....
BUt not much else beyond that...
Coop
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Author: Sylvia ElseSylvia Else Date: Mar 6, 2008 03:38
Coop wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:28:24 +1100, Sylvia Else
> wrote:
>
>> Ned wrote:
>>> SR20GOER wrote:
>
>>
>>> Are the authorities aware of you being a Taliban sympathiser?
>>
>
> Well, there *is* the desire to deal out summary capital punishment....
>
> BUt not much else beyond that...
> ...
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