> Vintage aircraft operators bid to prevent DC-3 grounding
>
>
> http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1416062043/bctid1416618430

> Rob. wrote:

>> Vintage aircraft operators bid to prevent DC-3 grounding
>>
>>
>> http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1416062043/bctid1416618430

>
> The issue here appears to be related only to being allowed to carry fare
> paying passengers.
>
> I'm not sure it's reasonable for a company to expect to be allowed to
> keep flying what is now a very old design into the indefinite future.
> Flying in a DC-3 may not be suicidal, but it's also nothing like as safe
> as flying in a modern airliner. I suspect that if this fact were made
> very clear to would-be passengers before they hand over their cash, a
> good many of them would decide not to.
>
> Sylvia.

>Rob. wrote:

>> Vintage aircraft operators bid to prevent DC-3 grounding
>>
>>
>> http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1416062043/bctid1416618430

>
>The issue here appears to be related only to being allowed to carry fare
>paying passengers.
>
>I'm not sure it's reasonable for a company to expect to be allowed to
>keep flying what is now a very old design into the indefinite future.
>Flying in a DC-3 may not be suicidal, but it's also nothing like as safe
>as flying in a modern airliner. I suspect that if this fact were made
>very clear to would-be passengers before they hand over their cash, a
>good many of them would decide not to.
>
>Sylvia.

> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:24:13 +1100, Sylvia Else
> wrote:
>

>> Rob. wrote:

>>> Vintage aircraft operators bid to prevent DC-3 grounding
>>>
>>>
>>> http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1416062043/bctid1416618430

>> The issue here appears to be related only to being allowed to carry fare
>> paying passengers.
>>
>> I'm not sure it's reasonable for a company to expect to be allowed to
>> keep flying what is now a very old design into the indefinite future.
>> Flying in a DC-3 may not be suicidal, but it's also nothing like as safe
>> as flying in a modern airliner. I suspect that if this fact were made
>> very clear to would-be passengers before they hand over their cash, a
>> good many of them would decide not to.
>>
>> Sylvia. ...

>
>Even 14 years ago, the DC-3 was a vintage aircraft. I doubt those
>college students, or their parents, realised in advance what kind of
>aircraft they'd be flying in.
>
>Sylvia.

>> Even 14 years ago, the DC-3 was a vintage aircraft. I doubt those
>> college students, or their parents, realised in advance what kind of
>> aircraft they'd be flying in.
>>
>> Sylvia.

>
> Hello again.
>
> Above, a snip from the offical report, perhaps an incident where not
> much condemnation can be leveled at the aircraft type under
> discussion.

> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:37:23 +1100, Sylvia Else
>
>
>
> wrote:

>>Fakerlewy wrote:

>>>> Even 14 years ago, the DC-3 was a vintage aircraft. I doubt those
>>>> college students, or their parents, realised in advance what kind of
>>>> aircraft they'd be flying in.

>

>>>> Sylvia.

>

>>> Hello again.

>

>>> Above, a snip from the offical report, perhaps an incident where not
>>> much condemnation can be leveled at the aircraft type under
>>> discussion.

>

>>No, probably not. I merely cited it as an example of people flying in a ...

> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:07:46 +1000, Fakerlewy wrote:

>>"Contributing factors included the overweight condition of the
>>aircraft, an engine overhaul or maintenance error, non-adherence to
>>operating procedures and lack of skill of the handling pilot."

>
> I suspect "V1 Oops!" still disagrees with that finding. He said that
> they weighed water logged luggage and came up with a falsely high
> gross weight. He also said that the remaining engine didn't develop
> full rated power, and if IIRC, that feathering on the dead engine was
> not as effective as it might have been.
>
> The non-adherance to operating procedures is a bit of a nasty turn on
> the pilot too. They say he shouldn't have been using the flight
> manual that was kept in the aircraft, because of the gross take-off
> weights specified in it. As if he is going to know!
>
> Well, that's how I recall it.
> --
> Cheers ...